Reframe Message - HPC - Transcript-Manual - DVDs

Igor: Do you want to have the final reframe, which is in this section? Once again you’ve heard this one in action already. It’s a real simple idea but has profound possibilities. It’s called the message reframe.

Anyone here ever suffer from an intense pain, or even worse, a chronic pain at some point in their life? Yes? Would it be fair to say when that is ongoing it feels like something or someone is torturing you? Would that be fair to say? It’s not something you choose in that sense.

That’s what causes all the knock-on effects like the tension and the desire to get rid of it, and all those things we’ve already talked about that are actually not serving the person in transforming it because what you resist will persist. Would you accept that you’re already beginning to see it here with our subject? You’ve seen it here in terms of our role play, correct?

So one of the reframes – and again it’s very key – is the idea that the sensation is not trying to torture you. It is a signal. It has a message for you and when you pay attention to the message, you no longer need the signal.

I have 1,000 different metaphors for this one because each different person needs to hear it differently. In Russ’s case we did it a little bit mind bending. This is something I got from – I think John Overdurf gave me this one.

You can have anything you want in life provided you pay… attention. Do you see the pause and how it sucks them in? And if you don’t pay attention, you’ll just pay with pain. Isn’t that the discussion we had at the

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Hypnotic Pain Control ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved start? That gets his attention. That gets him to understand as we talk about it that there is a signal in the body that’s telling him stuff. As soon as he starts paying attention to that stuff, he doesn’t need the signal anymore.

Another version of this is to imagine that your neighbor’s house is burning.

Would you call them up or knock on their door to tell them to get out of bed? Yes? Now if they ignored you and said oh, shut up, I’m lying in bed, what would you do? You’d pound harder, wouldn’t you? You’d hang up the phone and you’d walk across the road and you’d hit the door.

If they’re still not listening, you’d start kicking the door and making a hell of a racket to wake them up. Wouldn’t you? Meanwhile, they’re lying in bed going I wish they would just shut up. What happens as soon as they open the window and say what? What do you want already? Then you’d go fire. You’re going to die. Then they’d go oh, thanks.

How do you react? You shut up, don’t you? Your job is done, isn’t it? That’s what pain does. As soon as they understand that it is a message and they start listening to the message and paying attention to it, there is no reason for the pain anymore. That’s exactly what your experience was, wasn’t it?

Russ: Back to zero.

Igor: Back to zero is exactly what he’s saying. Is there any pain there at all at this point?

Russ: No, I’m sitting here comfortably.

Igor: He’s saying he’s sitting here comfortably. Do you want to just give him the mic so we can illustrate the point here? Do you have any sensation in your groin area right now?

Russ: No, I’ve been sitting in comfort.

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and as long as he doesn’t go back into the burning house, there is no need for any more.

Now if Russ were to be a little silly and decide to walk back into the burning house by maybe kicking a football, you can see the action might not be the easiest thing to have on a groin strain. What would you do as a neighbor? Are you crazy? Why are you going back inside? Isn’t that what your reaction would be?

That’s why the pain comes back. As soon as they understand this, these are the core principles. Once this is in their mind and they can accept it completely, your job is virtually done.

Can you eradicate the pain entirely or whatever sensation is left over?

Maybe, maybe not, but whatever is left is something they can live with without it being too debilitating. It’s infinitely better than the alternative that they were experiencing up to that point. Does that make sense to you?

Go ahead.

Russ: When we did the exercise, I was going to say two or three or something, and then I realized I’ve got to be truthful. I told this man to my left zero because that’s the truth. That’s what it was.

Igor: Once again do you notice how his mind hasn’t caught up yet? His intellect is still hanging on to that two or three because that’s more reasonable than saying it’s gone. It’s only when he pays attention to what’s actually happening, that all those chronic symptoms disappear because we’ve taken care of that.

Can you see how important this conversation is? So I want you to spend two minutes apiece having that whole conversation. Skip through steps

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I just want you to have a feel for that conversation. There’s a question here, but I want you to have a feel for that conversation because whether you do it in five minutes or you do it in 50 minutes or you do it over five days, this is your foundation on which all pain control becomes easier. If you don’t have this foundation, well it’s potluck. Honestly, I could not even begin to guess at how good your work would be. In my experience, I’ve pretty much failed miserably when I’ve skipped this.

Student: Let me clarify. The number six reference message, is that the hypnotist ask clients can you find what’s the message or if the sensations are like that?

Igor: You can do that too. I’m just simplifying it very simply. I want them to change their mind about what the pain means. Currently when they come in, for them the idea of pain means they’re being tortured. That’s how they’re experiencing it. Pain means torture. It means bad. It means get rid of it.

I’m changing their mindset from pain means torture to pain is a message trying to get your attention. As soon as you pay attention to it, the message is no longer needed. That gets past the resistance. Would it be fair to say you had that resistance initially, Russ? The resistance of saying well, I don’t want to hear what they have to say because it’s hurting me. I don’t care what it has to say.

That’s why it’s still there. That’s the only part of the message, which is the body is signaling something to you and to the extent you haven’t listened to it, it will continue to do its job. I’ll use the metaphor of the burning house or the telephone or the little kid out in the cold trying to go home.

I’ve got lots of these different variations. The point to get them to understand is that some part of them at an unconscious level is trying to get some other part of them to pay attention, to hear something, to feel

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Student: So the answer is to get the attention?

Igor: So is it an intense pain?

Joe: Yes, very intense.

Igor: Excellent, so there’s an intense sensation there. I’m doing a little reframe here. Now I realize this has been going on for a while, is that correct?

Joe: Yes.

Igor: And it’s been pretty much hell for you, like it’s just kind of torturing you.

Joe: For years yes.

Igor: It’s almost like some part of you that you’d love to get your hands onto.

It’s something that’s just tormenting you on purpose, right?

Joe: Yes.

Igor: And that’s why you’ve had it. I know it doesn’t make sense yet but consider this. You realize that pain is a signal from the body. It’s trying to get your attention to say look, something needs to be fixed here, right?

Joe: Yes.

Igor: Now you also know because you’ve been to a doctor and he’s checked it out, that either there’s nothing wrong with your shoulder or whatever is wrong with it. There’s nothing you can do about it anymore it’s just the way it is, correct?

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Igor: Exactly, so here’s the problem. To the extent that you’ve not listened to the message, the message is still trying to get your attention, but notice what happens. When you pay attention to that sensation again right now with a curiosity and a sense of what’s this about, see what just happened?

Very typically it will have diminished. I have changed his mind from this pain is tormenting me to this pain needs me to pay attention. It’s trying to tell me something. Now I might ask him – in some instances – I did this in Amsterdam. Was anyone here in Amsterdam at my hypnotherapy program? You were in Amsterdam?

There was a lady there, who had this splitting headache. It was intense to the point where she was thinking of – I think she was a medical doctor.

She was going to medicate and go home.

I asked her in terms of symbolism – we’ll come onto that this afternoon – what’s it trying to tell you? What? Just pay attention. There’s the headache, right? The headache’s right there, isn’t it? Yes. So there’s a sensation in your head and it’s pretty strong, right? Yes. I wonder what it’s trying to tell you. What? I wonder what it’s trying to tell you.

It’s there and it’s strong. It clearly wants your attention, doesn’t it? Yes.

She went away for 10 minutes, came back and she went oh my God, I get it. I said good. Do you have any idea what she got? No. Does that help?

All right, just two minutes apiece, real quickly. Off you go.

Would it be fair to say that these six steps are a relatively simple conversation to have and has a scope to be very involved, depending on the person and their need? Would that be fair to say? That’s what gives you flexibility as a therapist, a lot of flexibility, but it also lets you know where you are in the process.

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Hypnotic Pain Control ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved If you’re working really hard on a particular step, then you know you should be smiling because you’ve just found the key that’s going to help that person transform.

Student: My question is from the previous exercises that we’ve done, whenever you put direct attention on something that increases the power of it.

Igor: Thank you. Remember the old thing where attention goes, energy flows?

Is that correct? Notice what we didn’t say is where attention goes, things become stronger, what is there gets stronger. Energy flows there. Let’s say the pain in the shoulder. It’s the different attention.

Let’s put it this way. Two people – person A has a problem in the shoulder and person B has the exact same pain in their shoulder. Person A puts his attention on the shoulder. How can he not because it’s painful? He’s thinking oh, come on when is this going to be over already? Stop it. This is hurting. Oh, I wish I could just get rid of it.

Person B is going I wonder what’s going on here. Is there something we need to learn here? Do you notice a big difference? What is the quality of attention going towards the sensation in one versus the other?

The thing that keeps chronic pain chronic is the quality of attention being paid to it. The thing that relieves chronic pain is once again the quality of attention being brought onto it. So what all this is doing is, is it’s changing, it’s reframing the mindset so that the quality of attention that goes towards the sensation becomes different. It becomes healing rather than more damaging. Does that answer your question?

Student: It does except for when you ask the person what is the pain now and then does it vary, you’re putting their attention on it.

Igor: Sure, temporarily. That’s part of the whole maneuver. You’re not leaving it there, but what you’re testing for is how much attention is there. When he puts his attention to his shoulder, is he abusing himself with his attention

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So on a scale of 1-10, where is your pain now?

Joe: Ten!

Igor: Do you hear the abuse? Can you hear the quality of attention in his voice?

Here’s another version. It will still be 10. It will still be very high.

Given what we’ve just talked about, just pay attention to the scale of 1-10 and notice what level is it at now?

Joe: Ten.

Igor: Do you hear the difference? And you know it hasn’t always been 10, is that right?

Joe: Yes.

Igor: So some part of you is capable – can you hear the relief in his voice again?

Again he can’t help it because – are you thinking of a real client?

Joe: Yes, I am.

Igor: I can hear it in his voice because I’ve had exactly the same reactions. What I’m hearing in his voice in case you’re wondering is the relief starting to come through because his mindset has changed. The experience may still be intense but the mindset has shifted.

It’s a lot easier for me to suggest something like just as in the past it’s been less and right now it may be intense but notice how as you just wait a moment, do you see where that was? There’s no hurry in doing this. Did you like that?

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Igor: Do you see where we’re going, what path we’re going down now? This is more for after lunch, but because the quality of his attention has shifted and it’s a different kind of attention, I have an open door.

Go back to the first one, 1-10?

Joe: Ten!

Igor: The door is closed. Can you hear it? I can feel it inside myself how closed that door is. I could try and kick it down but maybe one in 10 people will let me do that. Why work so hard? Why violate the client’s integrity by working so hard? Does that help more? Was this useful?

Here’s what we’re going to do. We’re done. We’re going to have a lunch break now. It’s now a quarter to. Let’s be back here at a quarter to 2:00.

It’s now 12:45. Be ready to start at 2:00 on the dot and we’ll put it all together into the actual method. Off you go, folks.

All right, is everyone doing good? Nice lunch? I just want to talk very briefly about this again, just a little bit of extra stuff you might be interested in and then a couple of quick announcements and then we’ll go from there.

These are all online courses. They’re new courses, except for the last one, which are available online so that you can actually log into our digital library and it’s always going to be there for you. Just use your password and it’s going to be stored there for you. It’s an easy way for you to manage content.

Conversational Hypnosis Video Crash Course

Has anyone seen this one? Hands up if you’ve seen this one.

What did you think of it?

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Would it be fair to say there’s a lot of stuff in Conversational Hypnosis?

Yes. The whole purpose of this course is to distill the essence, what can we reduce conversational hypnosis down to, what are the simplest steps that you need so that everything else is icing on the cake? That’s what this course teaches you.

It just helps you reduce the complexity by bringing it down to its absolute barest essentials. It makes it really easy to understand, really easy to do, and anything actually you do on top of that becomes things you just take onboard as you get better and it becomes easier for you.

Do you see the purpose of this one here? Yes? Did you like it? Was it useful? Yes? Good.

Money In Your Mind

You may recall we talked about this before. This is strictly speaking not a how to do hypnosis program. This is actually using hypnosis and conversational hypnosis to help people change their attitudes towards money.

When you have the wrong attitude towards money, you don’t get any. It’s very simple. Your unconscious mind makes sure you get whatever is inside your blueprint. I’ll give you an example.

A friend of mine was a sales person. He was selling cars. He was great at selling cars. He gets hired away. He gets poached by a new luxury car dealer who was opening up in London. He starts working there just selling like half million dollar cars. You know, like expensive, expensive cars.

He can’t do it. He can’t sell it. He can’t even ask for the money. He just locks all up and gets all embarrassed. Of course if he gets embarrassed,

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His blueprint doesn’t allow him, it’s out of his complete conceptuality that

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