Emergency Medical Technician Program Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes 3/23/ :00 12:00 Bldg. 67-A Rm. 116






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Chief, L.A. Co EMSA Program Approvals Lucy Hickey, R.N.

Ameri-Care Ambulance

Ernie Foster, EMT-P x

Tina Ziolkowski, R.N. Program Director,

Dept. Co-Chair x Stephen Williams, R.N. Mt.SAC L.A. Co EMS Agency

Program Approvals

David Wells, R.N. Care Ambulance Bill Weston x

Kelly Sherwood, R.N. Clinical Coordinator, Dept. Co-Chair x

Marti Whitford, FNP Mt. SAC Student Health Services


L.A. Co EMS Agency Program Approvals

David Wells, R.N. Guardian Ambulance Scott Buck

Jemma Blake-Judd Dean, Tech/Health

Division x Cynthia Burnett Mt.SAC Counseling

PRN Ambulance Joe Busto x Sarah Plesetz Associate Dean Tech/Health Division x Dr. Chau Dao Sandra Bollier Mt.SAC Financial Aid Pomona Valley Hosp.

Medical Center

Laurie Sepke, R.N. Veterans Affairs

San Antonio Community Hospital

Patricia Eikholt, R.N. x

Terri Hood

Secretary, Technology and Health Division Yen Hang

Clinical Assistant, Tech and Health Division

Item Discussion Outcome/Action Needed

Welcome and Introductions

Tina Ziolkowski, Program Director, Dept. Co-Chair

Kelly Sherwood, Clinical Coordinator, Co-Chair

Purpose of Advisory

 Assist departments and college in evaluating

effectiveness of program and prep of graduates

 Recommend changes to curriculum, facilities,

and equipment

 Assist the program in identifying work

experience opportunities

Purpose of the meeting is to set the groundwork for the upcoming EMT Program.

Make suggestions regarding Program needs during Advisory Meeting and as needed throughout the year.


Approval of Minutes N/A

New Business Department name change to Emergency Medical

Services (from the former “Medical Services”) is under way.

Program Approval Continuation: EMT and CE

EMT Program is returning.

New hire: Requested hire was for paramedic but the hire we have received is for new EMT Program Director and Clinical Coordinator, allowing for some overflow to Paramedic. This will allow for return of EMT course offerings.

Applications are being accepted through April 27th

through HR dept. See https://hrjobs.mtsac.edu for details.

Deactivation of EMT 95: There was some resistance at Senate level when course was initially filed due to overlap with current EMT 90A/90 EMT certificate. This course was in response to Fire Tech filing for Fire 95. Student input was that is was a lot to process in only one semester.

The EMT Program is returning. It was proposed to the committee members to deactivate EMT 95. A motion to deactivate EMT 95 and continue with EMT 90A and EMT 90 was proposed and approved.


two semesters. Having a second EMT program format also caused complexity in those who were teaching both programs, each always being out of step with the other.

much material for one semester. In the future additional hours will be required of the EMT course at all levels for terrorist training.

Students enrolled in EMT 90A- 2- unit course offered during the Winter or Summer intersession, will not qualify for financial aide. Students must be enrolled in 6 units to qualify for federal financial aid. It was suggested that units be increased to allow students for financial aid eligibility.

Proposed move of EMT to Non-Credit: Arguments were made against placing

EMT in Non-Credit due to several factors:

1. EMT is a stepping- stone for many other health careers such as Nursing, Radiology, Respiratory Therapy and Mental Health. The EMT units could be applied towards degrees in those fields.

2. The National focus is an advanced degree in EMS.

3. EMT certification alone does not qualify for use as “college units” when applying to a college.


EMSA Comment:

Veterans’ Affairs – Students will choose not to take program if it cannot be funded via VA benefits.

Student Health Services:

Financial Aid:

Lucy Hickey and David Wells commented on the fact that it is customary in all surrounding

Community Colleges for EMT to be a credit offering. This is a very labor-intensive program for it to be considered non-credit. Only one institution tried non-credit years ago, only to return to credit.

Veterans will not receive benefits if the EMT Program is moved to non-credit education. This will discourage veterans from entering the EMT Program and being introduced to health career programs.

Credit students can avail themselves of Health Services benefits, such as physicals, as a result of their credit enrollment. Moving EMT to non-credit would severely impact this student population that relies on physical exams, vaccinations and drug screens for program entry and persistence. A discussion to change EMT 90A units from 2 units to 3 units during the


purchase uniforms until just prior to beginning the EMT 90 course.

It was also discussed to decrease EMT 90 units from 8 units to 7.5 units.

Units will remain as is until State regulations for course content are clear.

EMSA guidelines for future EMT / EMS course offerings:

EMSA will be making course

requirement changes adding additional training. Title 22 regulations governing EMS education mandates and minima are currently under discussion. Some proposed changes are the addition of hours for active shooter scenario and terrorism topic coverage.


Advisory Input

Changes in Technology: Equipment suggestions. Current Hiring Preferences and Practices:

What are the characteristics/skills sought in new hires? What skills are lacking in current applicants or work experience participants?

External Factors impacting the industry

None at this time, as regulatory changes are pending.

Larger than expected growth continues to be expected for EMTs and

Paramedics per Bureau of Labor Statisitcs.

Documentation of Program Needs-Mandatory

Sufficient budget for mandatory skills completion. State regs (Title 22) under consideration currently; a waiting public comment period. Expansion of scope – and training hours - proposed.

Other needs?

Budgetary needs to be re-assessed when EMT resumes. Prior budget has been insufficient due to greater student persistence, number of skills, added skills and need for repetition for competence.

New gurney continues to be a need. Rescue Randy mannequin would allow increased extrication scenarios.

Future Meetings Proposed meeting: Wed. February 22, 2017

The meeting was adjourned at 12:45PM.



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