SUB LORD
SPEAKS
PART -1
BY
Late Prof. K.M. SUBRAMANIAM
Edited
by
Sothidamamani
K. SUBRAMANIAM
S/o. Sothida M::)nnan. Jyothish Marthand
(Late) Prof
K.S.
KRISHNAMURTI
Sree Maha Ganapathaye Namaha!
PREFACE
"SUBLORD" SPEAKS!!
Yes. In our K.P. System, the SUBLORD always speaks. The cuspal sublords decide the fate of the Native in a chart. The starlord indicates the significators of the part cular Bhava, and the SUBLORD, ie. Planetary sublords indicates whether it is beneficial or not. In timing of the events ~· this sublord, along with CUSPAL Sublord gives clue to the Astrologer, for a correct future prediction
This book, under the caption SUBLORD Speaks, was written by Mr. K.M. Subramaniam (Late) of Perambur and a senior most K.P Scholar in the Magazine K.P. and Astrology., As Closely related to me, he often use to discuss the Nature ofSUBLORDS with me before writing each article. In my research, not only planetary sub lord, but, the cuspal sub lords also plays a major role in predictive portion of K.P. system in the absence of Planets in their stars. Without SUB LORDS there is no K.P. system.
I strongly recommend this book to all practising Astrologers. K.P Students and research scholars to master their knowledge in our K.P. system. I thank Mr. K. Subramaniam, Krishman & Co, for bringing out this publication in great memory of Shri. K.M.S. and the blessings of (late) shri. K.M. Subramaniam will always be there to him.
With great respects to our Great Guruji Shri. K.S.K., I end my words. Chennai 600 l 00
Dated: 27.08.2007
GOOD LUCK
Prof: VAIKARI .RAMAMURTHY
Prof: VAl KARl-RAMAMURTHY
PLOT No X, DOOR No. 211088, RADHA NAGAR,
PERUMBAKKAM (Near Sowmy Nagar Sai Saba Temple), MDAVAKKAM, CHENNAI-600 100TAMIL NAOU,
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
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Krishnamurthi Padhdhathi tells that the result of a planet is obtained through the status of the constellation lord. Suppose there are two planets in the same constellation, then there can be som modification in obtaining the result So, to assess the correct result, Sri KSK had divided the constellation in a manner and called it a sub, in the proportion in which they are allotted the total number of years in Vunshottari Dasa System.
The longitude of each constellation is 13°-20', equal to 800 minutes. Therefore, in evezy constellation of800 minutes, each planet will have an area equal to the number of years allotted to each in the DASAmultiplied by 6 2/3 minutes. Therefore"Stm's sub extends to 40 minutes, Mars and Ketu extend for 46 2/3 minutes, Moon extends for 1 '-6 2/3' minutes, Moon extends for 1 '-6 2/3, Rahu extends for exactly 2°, Jupiter has an area of 1 '-46-40", MereU!)' 1°-53 1/3' Saturn 2°-6 2/3. and Venus 2°-13'-20", Whatever is the constellation.
And also, Sri KSK emphasised that what matter actually one will enjoy or experience, depends on the lord of the constellation; but these can be felt with deviation in the result, in terms of the signification of the lord of the sub tenented by the concerned planet. It is also imperative to note, that it is the SUB lord which decides whether the results as obtained through the constellation lord, is favourable or unfavourble and any departure from it. altogether.
The planet is the sourc~. the house \.iCC\.Ipied (lf owned. shows the nature of the results to be experienced.
"According to the postulates ofKrishnamurthi Padhdhathi,as KSK's son Sri Ganapathy put it, that when a planet lies in a certain
constellation, it is modified by the planet that presides over the constellation. The planet is not only coloured by the constellation lord but also by the sub division of the constellation, according to the signification'ofthe sub-lord by house-lordship and occupation; and so the sub division has an important role in modifying and even deviating in the matter, as obtained by the star lord." At many times it had been noticed that planets in a constellation indicating a certain
matter, do not necessarily repeat the indicated results, and on the contrary they bring about a quite different matter, in terms of the signification of the stib-lord. To substantiate this, let me discuss the horoscope of my friend's wife, Srimathi K.,
hereunder:-Date ofbirth :31-3-1952
(Monday /Tuesday)
Tll'm 4.20 a.m., 1ST
Place ofbirth Chennai, 13°-4'/80°-17'
Mercury Moon 2-26 (R) Jup. 0-14 IV 20-20 v 16-20 25-29 III 22-20 II 20-45 ~~.·ts~£1 I (Asc.) VI 13-20 15-21 NIRAYANA Rahu 5-34 BHAVAChakram S.T. : 16-48-06
Xlll3-20 Mars Period at Birth: Kethu 5-34. 2 yrs. 2 mths. 10 days VII15-21 XI 16-20 X 20-20 Mars (R) Saturn (R) 25-08 18-35 IX 22-20 Vlll20-45 I
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I Venus
III Saturn IX
sannn
IV Ketu X Venus
v
Venus XI MoonVI Rahu XII Rahu
Jupiter Ketu
In this birth chart, you might notice that Rahu period was over by June, 1972 and by then the girl had completed her 20 years of age and not got married.
Rahu, by its star lord, signifies IX, ill, and X having no planets in its star, Rahu again get Xllth signification also, not conducive to bring about marriage, more so Rahu being in the subofMoon owning VI and signifying IX and X again, inspite of Rahu, as node, representing Saturn a full significator ofVII (note there is no planet tenenting the stars of Saturn), so marriage did not come up.
Then came the major period of Jupiter and it was from her 20th year and 35th year of age (from June, 1972 to June, 1988). JL:piter is in the lind bha\'am and O\\'TIS 11 and XL t urther Jupiter is
in the star ofKetu in Leo, and Vllth cusp falls there in Leo at 15°-15' -20.' So Ketu, as node, represents Sun and Vllth bhavam also. Though Jupiter in a way gets the Vllth signification also, being placed
in Ketu sub and Ketu being in its own star in Vlth bhavam, fully signifies the detriment status for marriage. So her marriage did not come up in Jupiter period also.
On 21-6-1988 started the major period of Saturn.
Saturn, having no Planet in its stars, is posited in Vllth bhavam, as such fully signifies VII.
Through star it signifies IV and VI, of course, a detriment status for marriage.
But Saturn apart from its Vllth signification, being in the sub ofMercury, a full significator ofii, and V got her married on 19-8-1988, in its own anthara itself. It was a Friday and Swathi star day (Thula Rasi) both ruled by Venus in terms of the Sub-Lord of the Vllthcusp.
Now we are discussing a more crucial matter:
As you all know how, that Saturn being posited in the star of Moon in IV, in Saturn period, one cannot expect a child, more so in the bukthi itself. The bukthi ends by 24-6-91.
But she conceived in the bukthi itself and delivered a male
baby on 29-10-1989, in the Swathi star day (Thula Rasi owned by Venus). How is it, there is a child birth in the period, and bukthi of Saturn a full IVth significator? (IV this the vrayasthana for Vth
which stands for progeny.)
Here the Sub-Lord speaks
Of course that star lord position of IVth got her a good workshop, which was under litigation, got cleared through Court of
its encumbrances, owing to its Vlth signification. This is the star lord status of Saturn, which set right the working of the work -shop.
Now look into the sub lord of Sa
rum.
It is Mercury. Mercury is in lind bhavam in its own star Revathi, owns Vth and VIIIth; noplanets in vth bhavam, and in Villth bhavam.
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So Mercury attains a full signification ofll, V, and Vlll and Mercury is the sub lord of the Dasa and Bukthinatha Saturn. Despite the fact that the Dasa lord Saturn being a full significator ofl, VII, and IV detriment houses for child-bearing its colour got changed
through the power of Sub of give its significations c{II and Vth, the
matter being progeny, and finance, and Kutumbha Vridhi. VIIIth signification did not bring about any surgical matter during birth.
Why? The Vlllth cusp Sub lord is Venus a full signifiator ofl, II~
and XI as such the Villth bhava is negated to give accidental and surgical matters and on the contrary will give sudden money flow,
through wills.
She has a male baby born on 29-10-1989 in Thula Rasi in
terms of the sub lord of the Vth cusp, being Venus, as the birth star
of the baby being Swathi.
This Article is mainly to stress the point that sub has a better say in assessing the matter, even if the star lord does not indicate such matters, as discussed above.
All the praises must go to our late Guruji Sri KSK., who had invented this predictive system with the blessings of Lord Uchishta
Maha Ganapathi.
Good Luck
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
[ SUB - LORD SPEAKS
I
Under the above caption, I have extracted the lines of Sri K. Ganapathi, S/o sri KSK how he emphaised the impact of the Sub Lord and how its significations altered that main significations of the star lord into benefic or malefic manner as in tenns of its significations. An example birth chart was also discussed in a detailed way, substantiating the same. As I am meeting many a student ofKP whose usual complaint is that the signification ofVll and XI did not help to fructify the marriage and VI and X has not brought service too often.
To explain this, I shall again reproduce some of the golden lines of our beloved Guruji, Sri KSK in this connection. He was
very emphatic in telling how the prediction should be given only
after looking into the Sub Lord where the planet lUlder observation is stationed: -(KP Reader No. Ill).
"Constellation needs consideration. The sign is not very important The bouse occupied by a planet should be judged, taking in which constellation the planet is posited. The role of the sign occupied by a planet is not so important, as that of the constellations."
. "So .
.a
planet' N offers the results of the house occupied by that planet 'B' which is the lord of the star wherein this planet' N isdeposited."
"Again trouble arose when 2, 3, or 4 planets are foWld in the same constellation, as all the planets in the same star, though referring the same matters, yet gave diametrically opposite results."
"This made me to think further and caused me to further carry
on the research. I found that every constellation must be divided in the manner I have said, in 9 subs of each sub having that area in a
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constellation in the proportion in which they are allotted the number of years in Vimshottari Dasa."
"I proved that planets occupying anyone constellation has
connection with the BHA VA occupied by the lord ofthe constellation. Those planets in that constellation are termed as the SIGNIFICA TORS of that Bhava occupied by the Lord of the
constellation."
"Thus if one works out for all the planets, then each planet is folUld to signify the matters of a few houses."
"Then judge each planet."
"The planet signifies a matter, Whether it votes for the progress and prosperity of that matter or due to the Sub-lord it is not capable
of doing good, further it does harm to that bhava signified by the planet, is to be studied."
"If a planet is the significator ofLagna Bhava it gives long life. success in attempts, it helps to maintain good health, at the same
time if the Sub-lord is not the significator ofVI, or VIII, or XII." "If the Sub-lord of that planet signifies Vlth house, he falls ill;
if sub lord signifies VIII, he meets with danger, and if XII one runs
away, or imprisoned or hospitalised."
"Therefore, constellation lord shows whom or which matters
if refers. But the deciding factor, good or bad, success or failure, is shown by the SUB occupied by the significator."
',
I have various instance to quote and to substantiate the above
lines of our Guruji Sri KSK., and I shall be writing with details in the· colunms-<Jf.KP & Astrology
in.
future.Now I take up two birth charts for discussion: 1. Birth chart of Mr. N.M.
Date ofBirth 27-2-1945
Tmle
Place ofBirth
Night 12-20 (Old time)
Tuesday night
Madras, 13°-4 '/80°-17'
III Rahu IX
IV Kett1 X
v
Mercury XIVI Moon XII
Mars Saturn Rahu
Mercury Kern Ketu
Jupiter Rahu Ven. 29-51 IV 17-9 VII 13-29 v 17-9 ' Sun 15-50 IV 15-9
Mere. 14-15 NIRAYANABHAVA CHAKRAM Venus Period Balance Mars 17-19 at Birth Ill 13-9 J yrs. 3 mths. 18 days Kethu 22-46 II 12-9 Asc. 13-29 XII 17-9 8 Sub - Lxd Speaks Rahu Venus Saturn Venus Saturn Saturn Saturn (R) 10-53 VII 12-9 Rahu22-46 IX 13-9 .. X 15-9 Moon 24-28 Jup. 1-13 IX 17-9
If you look sharp and observe the signification of MARS
obtained, through stellar status, they are Lagna, III, VI, and X. It is an envious combination, and one should attain in this period ofMars
from June 1964 to June 1971 good service status with high salary, a
big recognised struidard oflife with environmental status.
Nothing Happened and he of course, served in an industry as
a Turner with an ordiruny income and it abruptly ended in the bukthi
ofMoonduring 1971.
Now you look back and go through tpe lines of our late Prof. Sri KSK. He said that the signification of the planet through constellation lord tells the matters only and the SUB - Lord decides,
in tenns ofhis benefic or malefic significations.
Here the sub-lord is Saturn; and Saturn attains the signification
ofVill mainly and VII also as there is no planet in its stars, In terms
of this there was no financial progress and he suffered vicissitudes also.
.Then he entered the major period ofRahu on 15-6-1971 for
18 years. Rahu is in Villth there are planets in the stars ofRahu and
Rahu is in the star of Jupiter in X owning IT and V, There are planets in II and V.
Hence Rahu signifies X fully and II and V feebly. So the native
of this birth chart should have had occupational income and status all through Rahu period.
No is the answer.
He had neither regular service to tell, nor any good business life to reckon with. He had his head-in many
a.
business life with no purpose and no positive results, except involving himself in heavydebts.
To put it in a line, I can say that it was a abrren period, all
through. .
What is the reason?
Now look for the Sub-lord ofRahu. It is Saturn again.
Saturn is in VII and no planets in its stars and it is in the star of Rahu..in Vfll. Hence_ Saturn signifies VII
and VIII.
•.
The occupational life ended in failure and was with vicisSitudes.
But he had enough public contacts, with a reputation as the Xth signifiCation ofRahu worked through Vllth. So many public contact duly commanding respect, with an impact on his knowledge. So the Xth signifiation ofRahu has worked out for him as a successful public persons in terms ofVllth but with no retwns also in terms of Vlllth signification.
From 15-6-1989 the major period of Jupiter is on and it is for 16 years.
Jupiter is in Xth bhavam and there is Rahu in its star & Jupiter is in the star of Sun inN owing X.
So Jupiter gets the Xth-and IVth significations through
constellation lord.
Will this Xth and Nth signification work well? So look into the Sub-Lord of the Dasa Lord Jupiter. It is Rahu.
Rahu is again in the star of Jupiter in X and this promises
successful and benefic way oflife through Jupiter period. Actually by June or July of 1989,Jhe case .P.,~!lding on his workshop got cleared of all the encumbr~ce and he
got
good financial support concurrently and he re-started his. indu~try and running very well~ yielding him good, regular income, duly giving him a general boost in his life.10 Sub - Lord Speaks
· I am taking up another birth chart to emphasiz the idea that
more credence to be given to SUB-LORD before venturing a
prediction.
The following is the horoscope ofMr. S:
Date of birth : 26-1-1920 (Monday)
TJIIX: : 7-58 a.m.; IST
Place ofbirth : Poonamallee (Chennai);
13°.:4 '/80°/17' Fortuna Moon 1-2-36 V6-44 10-0-11 Ill 11-44 IV 10-44 ll8-44 Kethu 28-18 As c. VI 3-44 3-27-47 NIRAYANABHAVA Jupiter (R) CHAKARAM 21-28 Balance in Saturn Sun 12-06
Period at Birth 9 yrs: VII 3-27-47 Mercury 5'M's ; 26 days Saturn (R) 4-51 17-55 Xll3-44 XI 6-44 Rahu 28-18 Vlll Venus X 10-44 IX 11-44 8-44 3-09 Mars 4-59
Mars Sun Rahu Venus
Mercury Satunr Kctu Moon
Jupiter Venus
IV Moon S1n1
v
Rahu XI RahuVI Saturn XII Saturn
In this birth chart Mercury and Ketu are in the star Uthiradam
and Krithigai respectively. All KP followers know well that both the
stars are owned by Sun.
Hence Sllil is the constellation lord ofboth Mercury and Kethu and it is deposited in the XIIth bhavarn and owns Vllth.
So both periods of Mercury and Ketu should have been bad,
in terms of the significations ofMercury and Ketu being XII and
VIL These periods must have given him serious troubles, high expenditure out weighing his income, serious opposition, machanisation of secret foes.
He was running the major period of Mercury from July 29 to·· July46.
In this period he was the owner of good landed property worth mentioning with high yield of paddy. A big house to live in, happy kutumbharn with calm atmosphere. No shortfall in fmance.
Then how is it when Mercury is a full significator of XII and VII? Here the Sub-Lord speaks.
Nov . .: look into the Sub-Lord ofMercury. It i~ Saturn, a full significator of X _ap.d IV.
The powerful signification ofX and IV has sustained his status
. and he was a reputed landlord, with high and regular yield from his
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fields and thus the occupational status was enjoyed by him. Further in the ye3f 1945, when Saturn bhukthi was on, he had the luck and
hounourofbeing called for by Government to sit as Jury in Sessions Court at Chenglepet.
Also that as Saturn a full significator of X and IV, in his bukthi he had social troubles also duly involving him.indirectly in criminal case in terms of the Sub-lord of Saturn being Mars, a full significator ofVIII, but overall not affecting his general status in the village and
on the contrary he was looked at with awe, in terms of the xth
signification ofMars the Sub lord of Saturn. He was well protected
and supported against odds. Summing up the entire periods of Mercury was a good one with high income, good and peaceful family life with a child, high esteem in society, and also in Governmental sphere.
The Xllth signification ofMercury involved him in secret
criminal dealings with village folk, but the status of the Sub lord has converted the same XII the mater into an air of influence, giving him
a status ofleadership in the village, in a manner.
Then he entered the major Dasa ofKetu from July, 1946 and it was for 7 years.
As already pointed out in earlier paras both Mercury and ketu are stationed in the star of Sun being Uthiradam and Krithi.gai respectively.
Hence Ketu also attains the signification ofXII & VII in terms of the constellation lord sun.
The malefic matters of Sun expected out of significations of
XII and VII through starlord got averted by the Sub lord Satum with benefic significations of X and IV during Merucury major
period. But Ketu obtaining the same significations ofXII and VII
through its starlord Sun being in Krithigai, could not be contained
with and the native suffered untold sufferings, unfolding all the
bad
matters ofXll and VII bhavas ..
He, in the beginning of the period lost his belov.ed child, duly
followed, of course by a happy matter of a female baby being born.
The same secret involvement, with criminals and rustic village folk started during Mereury period, now in Ketu period landed him in
open enemities, extreme wasteful expenditure, over and above his
income, resulting in debts accruing.
In the bukthl of Jupiter he lost his young and beloved wife, during 1949, leaving behind a very young child of2 years old, under
his care, binding him with responsibility.
And soon after within a month, got himself entangled in a village matter, which cornered him to that extentofleaving his native village in a hush overnight, culminating into the loss of all his parental asets for an unjustified value, with the result he looked very small in
the eyes ofhis relatives.'
Mercury in his period with the same significations ofXn and
VII give him alround happiness and social status. Why? It is the
Sub lord Saturn, having benefic signification ofX and IV.
Now the quite opposite happenings in the period ofKetu
with the same signification of xll and Vll through star lord Sun and these malefic matters of XII and VII could not be controlled as
Ketu the Dasa lord in the Sub of Moon, why?
Moon is in II, but there are olanets in Moon stars. So he
does not signify
n.
Moon is in the star of Saturn in VII owing XII and I. So Moon fully signifies VII. XII, and I also.
So Ketu could not contain itself without troubling the native, to the extent oflosing his entire paternal properties, l~ving his birth
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place for ever, owing to the ruthless open enemities. The Lagna signification of the Sub lord Moon retrieved his lost status to a meagre
·extent, by giving him in Saturn bukthi, a service in railways, though
the pompus status is once and for all gone.
The Lagna signification of the Sub lord gave him a secret support
of some people in the village to fight against his opponent, as he
decided to-withdraw from the scene on moral grounds. No body could lay hands on
him,
even though he was with a meagre support. By this, the followers and students ofKP can well be sure that theSublord speaks more emphatically and decides the matter in terms
ofhis significations only.
Good Luck
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
{ SUB • LORD SPEAKS )
Appended below is the Horary figure made out at 6_00
1ST on I 0-4-90 at Chenuai 13o-04 '/80o-l7'. p.m.
~umber
42 given by Mr N.M. regarding the purchase of amotorbike. ~ ·· ·
Que?' was specific. "Will I purchase a motorbike, if so will it
be
~ful
Without any trouble whatsoever? I have one in my view forwhtch an advance amount has also been paid."
. Readers may please note that it is already under his control
partially, as ~e _had paid an advance amount and so where is the
trouble about It m coming under his ownership?
.
I~
was really a shockt~
the querent when it was predicted in.. ~ negah~e way, duly telling him that the issue will be a futile one and
he may not get the bike under reference now.
Kindly look sharp and read the Horary, duly assessing the
strength of the CUSPAL& PLANETARY SUBLORDS
Sun Mercury I 00-00-00 26-39-44 15-42-11 Jupiter Xl25-49-33 XII 29-04-44 10-19-39 II 25-42-32 X 22-38-39 Kethu Venus 19-28-26 I 0-34-45
NIR"\:-\NA Ill 22-32-22
_IV < S Horary Chart No. 42
28-30-26
IX 22-32-22 Balance in Mars Period
Rahu J'yrs-00 mths- 15 days IV 22-38-.W l 9-28-~(> sm ,_,,s.o:: VIII 25-42-32 Vl29-4-44 v 25-49-33 VII Moon 00-00-00 0-52-32 16
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III Moon IX Venus
IV Saturn X Saturn
v
Rahu XI · RahuVI Sw XII Mars
SlDl Jupiter Rahu Mercury
Mercury Sw Mars Saturn
Saturn Rahu Venus Saturn
Moon Mercury Ketu Venus Jupiter Jupiter
Matter was discussed, duly assessing the strength of the
SUBLORDS of the relevant houses and cuspal degrees, along with
the strength ofSUBLORDS of planets.
As it is a matter connected to the purchase of a vehicle (Motorbike) IVth cusp SUBLORD was looked into.
The SUBLORD is SATIJRN.
SATURN is in Capricorn 1°-8'-02" and so its star lord is
SUN.
Sun is in Pisces 26°-39' -44" and is in Xlth Bhavan. Further
the same star lord SUN rules the JVth cusp also. which stands for
vehicles, here Motorbike.
This signification attained by the SUBLORD of the Nth cusp,
initially emboldened me to tell his success in the purchase of the
vehicle, under reference.
~UT
the inner mind suddenly prompted me to makeare-c~k
m terms of the strength of the relevant SUBLORD SATIJRNWith reference to its SUBLORD status .
.
S~TURN
was found in the SUB of RAHU. Rahu was longitudinally 1~-28'
-26" in Capricorn, relevant to VUI bhavam.~e
sam~
Rahu is in the star ofMOON, stationed in vth bhavam,~
owrung the IDrd cusp and no planet in illrd bhavam, a complete detnmental status for the purchase of the vehicle.Now the students may please note that the star status of SATURN indicated the purchase of the vehicle, and the SUB-LORD's specification indicated quite the contray.
At
~s
juncture I could remember'our
GURUJI's words "The SUB dectdes the matter. Matter is shown by the stellar position."So I was emphatic in telling Mr N.M. that the purchase may not materialise finally. ·
On ll-4-90, theownerofthe bike intimated him that he at the moment, had no mind to part with the vehicle and if
al
ali
he~Us
the same, the preference would fall on Mr. N.M. only, duly returning the advance amount.Thus ended the matter.
And so, we are rediscovering the famous KRISHNAMURTI P ADHDHATHI; an Advanced steller Theory, by rightly calling same as SUB THEORY
· With Pranams to our GURUJI, Sri KSK.
Good luck
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Sub - Lord Speaks
Sri Mahaganapathayc Namaha
[ SUB - LORD SPEAKS
I
Apropos our great GURUJI sri KSK's Ariticle, captioned "WILL THE PLAY BE CONTINUED OR NOT' on page 1 of the June, 1990 issue ofKP &Astrology, I request you to note the lines in the lind para in the lind column. I reproduce the.same for inunediate attention.
"So judge the Vth & Xlth cusps. Sub Lord of the Xlth cusp
in Sun. It is in the sub of Jupiter in VII. not connected with V. Hence one will switch off the Television as the desire will not be fulfilled by seeing it,
And again note the lines in the Illrd para;
"Take Vth cusp. Moon is the sub lord and it is in the sub of Rahu signifificator ofV (Moon Lord ofV). Therefore there
will be game."
From these lines the student should make note of that GURUJI
gave stress on the Sub Lord of the planet under question for finality.
So, with this in mind, let me analyse 3 birth charts and point out how
Sub Lord alone has the final say in delineating the results.
Chart No.1
SriVaikari
Dateofbirth: 3-12-1942
9-30 a.m. advanced time (WAR) 8.30 a.m. IST (Corrected Time)
Place ofbirth :Village nearer to Ponneri (Chennai) 13°-20' N. Latitude; 80-15' E, Longitude
Day Th~y
S.T Hours
,
i
3-6-14 Sees Ayanamsa 23°-2'24'34"Moon Moon Jupiter IV24-55-IO v 24-55-10 Sat 15-53-28 VII VI 20-55-10 16-59-30 III 21-55-10 Jupiter (R) Kethu 87 Years-11 m-IJd VIII 1-30-4
5-59-43 NIRAYANA 17-55-10
BHAVACIIAKARAM
II 17-55-10 Balance in Moon Rahu period at birth 5-59-43
IX 21-55-10
Lagna Venus Moon
I 16-59-30 Mars 28-13-13
XI 24-55-10 11-24-51 X 24-55·10
The native was running the major period ofMoon upto 6-11-1951.
Moon is a major significator ofiX as it is posited in its own star HASTAM in IX and very feeble significator ofVill as it is ~enented by Rahu. In this peri~ ofiXth significator, he lost his father m Venus bukthi.
How? Moon is in the sub ofMars who is the bhadhakadipathi from ~th as IXth cusp owner for Simha a sthira rasi. Bukthi Lord
Ven~ m the sub of venus itself and so signifies Xth which is a mamka
position for IXth which stands for father. .
~e got into service on 28-11-1962. It was Rahu major period and the bukthi of Jupiter from 28-7 ~61 to 23-12-63.
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Jupiter is in the VIIth bhavam and in its own star Punarpoosam
and owns Lagna cusp and IVth cusp. All these significations do not connect to service and professional life to start with.
So, look into the sub lord and it is Rahu. Rahu is in Vill, corresponding to Leo and so it represents sun which is a significator of xi and X (no planet in Sun's stars and Sun is in XI and in the star
of owing x Mercury and no planet in X).
Rahu is in the star ofKethu in ll.
It was in theANthara of venus. Venus has no planet in its
siars and owns VI & XI (no planet in VI}. Venus in the star of Mercury in xi, owning Xth cusp. TheAnthara lord Venus is in the sub ofVenus and so it again signities VI, XI, & X.
So, on the day the entered services, the Dasa Lord Rahu
signified II through Sub Lord; Bukthi Lord Jupiter signified ll, X, & XI through Sub Lord and theAnthara Lord Venus signified II, X & XI through Sub Lord.
Another major even is his marriage on 25-5-1966. Let me ·: discuss this also.
Dasanatha Rahu in its own Sub and its in the star ofKethu posited in ll and the same Rahu represents Sun, a significator ofX, XI, & VII as explained earlier.
Bukthi Lord Saturn having no planet in its stars in V and owning II & Ill and also posited in the star of Moon in IX. Saturn is in its own sub also.
Antharanatha Rahu is in the above said status.
In this period, he got married (between 7-1-166 to 11-6-66} on 25-5-1966 on a Saturn star day, i.e., Poosarn.
Rahu major period.ended by November 1976 without any major events. Then started the major period of Jupiter and it is for
16 years from 16-11-1976. Jupiter is in the VIIth bhavarn, in its own star P~arpoosam and owns Lagana cusp and IVth cusp. So
signifies VII,I, & IV. Jupiter is in the Sub ofRahu who represents Sun of rahu who represents Sun duly signifying XI & X, and further Rahu is in the star ofKethu in lind bhavam. So Jupiter period gave
a stepped up status in the life of vaikari. The major signification of
VIIth of the Planet Jupiter has been converted into big clientele and VIIth worked add assumed the rolour of X in tenns of signification of the Sub Lord. He has more useful clients with the advent of this period, as an Astrologer he enjoyed an established status with good recognition as such.
As the Vllth significator is in the Sub ofllnd significator, the .adverse matters ofVIIth such as open opposition and litigations have been eradicated and on the contrary it fetches him good income through clientele (VIIth).
Next let me take up the 2nd horoscope ofMr J for discussion. Born on 12-11-1942 at 7.35 PM IST(8.35 PM Advanced time, WAR TIME), Place ofbirth being Tajore 1 00-47' /7rJ>-1 0' on Thursday.
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Sidereal time arrived at- Hours 22-45-54 Seconds. Ayanamsa: -23° -2'24-34" Saturn (R) II 19-57-36 XI 19-53-35 XII 22-53-35 17~31-10 Lagna I 24-14-3 X 16-53-35 Jupiter (R) Kethu 2-11-36 7-5-20 NIRAYANA III 16-53-35 BHAVACHART IX 16-53-35 Rahu 7-5-20 IV 16-53-35 Moon VII' · ~un 2()-30-53 20-52-36 Ve 25-33-11 v 19-53-35 VIII 24-14-3 Me VI215-462-53-3-36 5 19-57~36 Mars 14-9-9
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THE NATIVE OF THIS CHART IS A GAZETTED OFFICER with the advent of·Rah~ period which started by july 1974; and with a stepped up and lucrative status as an Electrical Inspector from Jupiter bukthi which post he is still holding with wide powers ..
Let us discuss what Rahu tells.
Rahu is in Illid bhava and is in the star ofKethu in IX. What
this tells? NO service at all. then how is it that he enjoys such as
po:werful service
m
this
period ofRahu?Now look at the Sub Lord ofRahu. Rahu is in his own sub.
. ' . .
As node, in its own star or sub, Rahu attains the full signification ofits Rasi Lord. Here the Rasi Lord is Sun, who is afull significator ofll, VI, & XI (Sun is in the star of Jupiter in II, owning XI. Jupiter is in its own star in II, and no planet in XI. Further, Sun is in VI and
no planet in its stars).
So, Rahu the Dasanatha acquires the strength of II, VI, & XI
through its rasi Lord under its Sub Lord status, as explained above
and so a fme service status is being enjoyed by the native. During
Mercury bukthi from July 1982 to January 1985, he had lot of
additional money and his bank balance went up.
How? Mercury is in v and own Vth cusp. No planets in Mercury stars. This position itself tells financial stress and strain.
And further Mercury is in the star ofRahu in ill. This position under
star l~rd status does not portray this financial betterment. Loot at the Sub Lord of Mercury. It is Venus. Venus is in VI and owns vi;
and is deposited in the star of Jupiter in II owning xi (No planet in XI and Jupiter is in its own star).
The Sub Lord signification of Mercury has given such a strength to Mercmy and in that buk.thi he had reached asoWld financial
status apart from his service circumstances.
Venus buk:thi from February 1986 to February 1989 passed
off without any major improvement materially, though it was there in terms of the Sub Lord Mercury which fully signified ll, & III as much was expected in Venus period as it signified ll & XI through its star lord signification only.
Followed by Sun bukthi from February 1989 to January 1990.
Let me discuss threadbare the strength of Sun in this chart. S\Dl is in VI and no planet in Sun stars, i.e., Uthiram, Uthiradam,
and Krithigai. So Sun is a full significator of VI & IV. (Sun rules IVth cusp and no planet in IV th bhavam). Further, Sun is in the star
of Jupiter in ll owning XI. So Sun fully signifies through star, VI,
rv,
II & XI. It is fine through Star Lord signification.
In this bukthi the native attempted a very big project, and had this bukthi worked well in tenns of the above significations, i.e., VI,
ll & XI it should have multiplied his bank position ten-fold. On the
contrary a sizeable amount was handed over to one of his well
wishers for progressing the project; and as it was a failure, his own money had to be drawn from his back in piecemeal.
Why?
The same planet Sun is in the Sub ofKethu. Kethu is in the
star ofRahu in ill and Kethu. Kethu being a node represents Saturn
fully. SatUrn signifies Xll & VIII (Saturn is in XII and no planet in Saturn stars. Saturn is in the star of Moon in Vlll). Hence the failure to a major extent. He
has
now reached the bukthi ofMoon on 1-1-90. Moon signifies I & VI thr~ugh star position, as it is in the star of Venus in VI owning Lagna and VIth cusp. The same Moon is in theSub of Jupiter signifying ll, XI, & Vill.
The signification of VIII through Sub brought the demise of his father, as VIIIth being the vrayasthana from IX which stands for father. From IXth Moon, buk:thinatha owns the Vllth from IX, the
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marak.asthana for father. The xth signification ofVenus from IX, tlie star lord of moon tells the last journey of father. ·
As Moon gets II & Xlth significations also through Sub strength, this bukthi shall retrieve his financial status and shall give him boosted financial income before it ends by July. 1991 preferably during Mercury Anthara
Next is the major period of Jupiter which starts on 9-7-1992 and it is for 16 years. Jupiter is in lind bhavam in its own star, Punarpoosam and owns VIIIth & Xlth cusps. It is in ~e ~ub of rahu who as node fully represents the sign lord Sun, a full stgmficator ofVI, IV, ll, & XI and so, that period will give him high and stepped up material success with stable household and vehicular properties with high comforts.
Let me take up Illrd birth chart and discuss how the Sub Lord of planets had a stamping effect in disturbing the marital portion nflife ofSmt R. Date of birth Ture .Place ofbirth Sidereal time Ayanamsa XII 26-47-33 Kethu I-20-44 XI 24-47-33 Jupiter 4-13·41 Saturn 29·58-41 X 26-47-33 XI 0-47-33 5-10-1961 6-41 PM 1ST Chennai 13 °-04' /80° - 17' Hours 19-26-59 seconds 23°-18'-19" III 0-43-33 Lagnam ll 3-47-33 IV 26-47-33 I 2-39-55 v 24-47-33 NIRAYANA BHAVACHAKRAM Rahu 1-20-44
Balance in Kethu period Moon 2-00-5
5 y-11 m • 12 days Venus 21·13-20 VI 26--l7-33 Mercury Vlll 13-9-Il Sun 3-47-33 Mars 9-13-41 18-44-41 V!l 2-39-55
Sun Mercury RMu Venus Mercury Mercury Mars Jupiter Saturn Rahu Venus Jupiter
-Moon Venus Ketu Mercury Jupiter Saturn
In this instance, I desire to discuss the "Significations of all the nine planets and make a survey in reference to her marital life as
under:
VI VI, X, IX
Mercury III, V, VI, VII, IV III, V, VI, VII,
Jupiter VI, X VI, X, XII
,II VI, X
Kethu III, IV, V, VI, VII
; . . Th?ugh Sun gets the good signification Vth; but through Sub, stgmficattons are IV, & VI which negate the matrimonial happiness. Moon is the lone planet which gets XI, & VI under star and
II, VII. & V under Sub. so there will be a happy matrimonial enjoyed during Moon Period.
Mars gets V & VI through star, the happiness is completely negated bytbe Sub getting VI & X signification.
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Mercury having equal significations ofVI, VI, Vll, & IV with
serious negation for matrimony arising under VI & IV significations. Jupiter gets VI & X through star and additional Xllth, apart from VI & X, is a definite portrayal of detrimental status for peaceful matrimonial life. It is very bad.
Venus gets V & ll significations through star, and at the same time gets VI, & X through Sub tells the bad status of matrimonial life.
Saturn gets VI, X & XII through star, and through Sub signifies
XI, X, & VI. The lone XIth signification gives very little
encomagement in the matrimonial portion of life.
Rahu gets XI, X & VI through star telling mixed results matrimonially but very happy one through Sub, getting the significations ofTI, V, & VII. This will give a happy matrimonial status.
Kethu has I, VII, & VIII through star, a satisfactory one for matrimony but a mixed one through the Sub signification ofV & VI. The girl got married during the bukthi ofKetbu in the major period ofVenus. From the date of marriage she did not enjoy peaceful matrimonial life, not happy at all.
- During the period of Sun from September, 1987 differenced between the couple came to surface and got divorced during 1989 during the bukthi of Jupiter a full significator ofVI, X, & XII through Sub and the bukthi of Jupiter rules from 5-10-89 to 23-3-90.
From the above signification chart, you will notice, except Moon and Rahu, the other planets negate her peaceful matrimonial
life. 1bis is the assessment.
Good Luck
. Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
I
SUB - LORi.) SPEAKS
I
I have taken up the delineation of the birth chart of the MATHEMATICS PRODIGY Chiranjeevi VASUDEVAN. He is now a school boy of9 years old, living in Perambur, Madras and is
a wonder of wonders. He can be taken as the great RAMANUJAM re-born, with such high faculties in Mathematics, duly acknowledged and praised by many all over.
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The following are his birth details:
Date of birth 7/8 - 1- 1981 Tnne Day Place of birth S.T. v 23-40-4 IV 21-40-4 lJI 18-40-4 Ke 18-34-10 Moon 13-49-4 Mars 12-43-00 Mer 28-34-13 Sun 23-58-24 II 17-40-4 For. 8-44-13 Ven2-14-34 4-5 AM IST; 3-56-8 AMLMT Wednesday !Thursday. Chennai 13°-4' N' Latitude; 80°-17' E. Longitude Hours 11-5-42 Seconds VIII VI 22-40-04 VII 18-52-33 17-40-4 Rahu Nirayana Bbava 18-34-10 Chart IX 18-40-4 Balance in Moon period at birth: 7y -I m -20 days X 21-40-4 Saturn Lagnam 16-5-56 I 18-52-33 XIJ Jupiter 22-40-4 16-21-46 XI 23-40-4 Sub -Lord Speaks
I Kethu VII Mercury
II Mars VIII Slli1 Ill Mercury / IX Kethu
IV Jupiter X Jupiter
v
Mars . XI· Mars VI Saturn XII Sannnjp.. .,.'~. _ _ _ , ...'Of?' . -_. ~·~". ~~· .... ·~ -•!;:~~ ·r~ . . ~<'
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Sun Saturn Mars Rahu
Jupiter Saturn Rahu Kethu
Saturn Saturn Mercury Mars
Moon Rahu Kethu Mercury
Venus Venus
In a nativity Illrd house stands for perception, learning and intellect, and the IXth house for reasoning and intuition, higher mind,
transit that is rapid, prophetic awareness, higher brain power, delving into mysterious realms and attaining very unusual accoplishments.
One should look at the IXth house to find out if there is BHAGYA accumulated as a result ofhis poorvapunya.
Here the IXth cusp Sub Lord is K.ETU. It is in lind in the star
ofMoon in lind bhavam, in its own star and owns IXth. And'Kethu
is in the Sub of Mercury signifying II & X. So Bhagyarn is there evident and it will act through his brain power and VAKKU and bting him a great name and status.
Again in this bir:th chart, the
Lagna
Cusp Sub Lord is KETIIU.KETHU is in II, one of material trinity (II, VI, X), and placed in the star ofMoon in II owning IX, a house representing poorv~punya.
The very fact that Moon, the IXth owner placed in II in its own star
creates a healthy status for poorvapm1yam to act in high beneficial
manner and in as much as the planet Moon the lind significator attains the star lord status of Kethu, the Sub Lord of the Lagna
Cusp and IXth cusp.
Such a combination detailed above tells the birth as a result of high poorvapllllya channeled through lind, which stands for V AKKU
(vocal power) of the material trinity, lind house stands for material
prospects through his way of expression of matters of extrinsic value his ability to express and his VAKKU.
IXth cusp Sub Lord is also Kethu. Kethu as already discussed
is in the star ofMoon in II owning IX, and the same Kethu signifies
II & X through its Sub L~rd Mercury.
As IX, the house of higher brain power and as it is imbibed
naturally with the quality of rapidity, attain very unusual
accomplishments with quick down pour of matters, when well
connected to one of the houses of material trinity ie., II or VI or X. Here as lind that stands for V AKKU is well connected to IXth he is
able to give astoundingly quick mathematical answers which an
ordinary person cannot dream to rise to that standard at all. The owner of the IXth house is Moon and he is called Mathi, the mind. This Moon is in its own star in II, and in the Sub of Jupiter in X
another material house, owning V, the house standing for intellect and intelligence (please note no planet tenants the star of Jupiter).
This combination tells that the boy is endowed with high intelligence
and higher brain power to attain very unusual accomplislunents.
Moon is usually very good if we find it in lind bhavam, promising a
gifted tongue.
If one makes a survey of all the planets, he may find that almost all are connected to IXth through lind bhavarn, a powerful
benefic house.
Let me discuss one by one, cusp-wise.
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1st cusp Sub Lord Kethu is in lind bhavam in the star of
Moon in lind owning IXth. The same Kethu is in the Sub ofMercury
inn
& signifies X.lind cusp, Sub Lord Mars in ll (no planet in Mars stars) in the star of Moon in II in its own star and owning IX. The same Mars is in the Sub ofRahu on the IXth cusp duly signifying ll & XI
(Rahu is in the sub ofKethu and the IXth cusp is also formed in the
Sub ofKethu. Hence Rahu is deemed to be on the IXth cusp, and as no planet is tenanting its stars, Rahu acquires the IXth signification fully).
IIIrd cusp Sub Lord Mercury in II, in the star of Sun in II ~d
this planet is well connected to IXth through Sub Lord Mars bemg
placed in the star of Moon in II owning IX.
. IVth cusp Sub Lord Jupiter in the star of Moon in II. owning IX and also signifying X& V as no planet is in its stars and m V and
the same Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn signifying ll, IX, and X also
as no. planet is tenanting itS stars. .
Vth cusp Sub Lord Mars is well connected to II& IX (please
see the above discussion regarding lind cusp).
Vlth cusp Sub Lord Saturn in X (no planet in Saturns stars)
in the star of Moon in II owning IX. Saturn is in its own Sub and so
again signifies II & IX, apart from X.
Vllth cusp Sub Lord Mercury is in the star of Sun and so signifies II & IX and is in the Sub ofMars signifies II & IX and also
VI.
VIIIth cusp Sub Lord Sun in the star of Venus in 1 and so signifies I, VIi, & XII, and the same is in the Sub of Saturn and so
signifies X, III, II, & IX.
IX the cusp Sub Lord is Kethu (as already discussed) and it is in the star ofMoon in ll in Thiruvonarn and so Kethu sigtufies II &
IX. The same Kethu is in the satr of Mercury in II, signifying II.
Xth cusp Sub Lord is Jupiter is in the star ofMoon in II owning
IX, and so signifies II, IX, X and is in the Sub of Saturn signifying X,
II & IX.
Xlth cusp Sub Lord Mars is in II and in the star of Moon in II and no planet in Mars stars as such signifies II, I, VI & IX, and also
in the Sub ofRahu on the IX the cusp (no planet in Rahu stars) and signifies II & XI (for details see discussion on lind cusp.)
XII cusp Sub Lord Saturn is in X and no planet tenanting its stars and Satwn is in the star ofMoon in II owning IX and so signifies II, IX, & X. Saturn is in the Sub of Saturn itself and so gets the
signification of II, ITI, IX, & X.
On an overall assessment of the significations of these 12 cuspal Sub Lords, we note that the Sub Lords are under star or sub
connected to IX & II, with better emphasis on the llnd, one of the
material trinity and thus tells his higher brain power attaining very
unusual accomplishment.
Now he is under the major period of Mars from 27-9-1988
to 27-9-1995. Mars is a full significator ofl, VI,
ii
& IX through Star Lord and under Sub Lord Rahu, signifies IX, II, & XI (andalso II & lX as node Rahu represents Moon). So in this period he earns high name and status through his brain power.
Period ofRahu is from 27-9-1995 and rahu on the IXth cusp,
having no planet in its stars, for VRISCHIKA lagna natives, is a matter debatable.
Good Luck
Sub -Lord Speaks
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
I
SUB • LORD SPEAKS
I
I have been writing some Articles under the above caption,
forcing the utmost importance on the usage of the Lord of Sub
while rendering prediction, and I have also brought home to the· students, ofK.P. that in the absence of using which, liability of fail me in hitting the correct results.
I have reproduced the golden lines of our Late GURUJI Sri KSK regarding the ROLE OF SUB and Sub Lord in prediction.
Still I want to reproduce some more lines from his Book, KP Vol-II, heretmder:
''The strength of a planet is judged by nothing the sign occupied by it The planet in a sign is the source of the result, which it bestows according to the lord of the constellation in which the planet was
tenanted. The nature of the results which the planet gives includes
whether the planet is in a positive sign or negati~e sign, in a m~vab~e
or fixed or common sign, in a fiery or earthy, auy or watery sign, m a fruitful or a barren sign, in a mute or voice sign, in a violent or
hl.Dnan sign.
All these must be taken into consideration beforejudging what a planet can do.
"A planet in any of the constellations will be under the sway
of the lord of the constellation. Therefore instead of giving many probabilities ~ccording to sign, the three constellations in a sign divide
them into 3 groups."
"Each constellation is divided in 9 divisions under the name ofSUB, in the proportion in which they are allotted total number of years in Vimshottari Dasa system."
"Such Sub Division (SUB) is found necessary not only to differentiate results indicated by two plantes, but also the cusps in the same constellation."
"So the Sub Lord reduces the nun1ber of probabilities to be
chosen for prediction."
"So all matters such as Health, Disease, Longevity, Education, Profession, etc., clearly and correctly predicted only when the Sub is included."
"To clearly indicate the correct matter, one can find that the SUB serves better, and gives correct and clear prediction, whereas the lord of the constellation is that which shows the nature of the result only i.e., to which houses the lord of the consteUation is the owner and the matters signified these houses will manifest."
"Further, a planet in the Sub of an evil planet indicates loss, difficulty or failure whereas the same planet in the same star but in the Sub of a benefic, promises success, gain and pleasure."
"The lord of the constellation may indicate the matters of 7th house. The planet in the Sub of a malefic causes enemity, whereas that in the Sub of a benefic brings harmony and happiness."
"The lord of the constellation may show any one walk of life to a native. It is the Sub which decides whether that area is advantageous or not. "
Having these lines in mind, I had been watching many a birth chart and in the process, I have noticed that the Sub Lofd had such a strength, even to act quite the contrary to what the constellation lord signification more emphatically.
Let me discuss some antivities here-under, on these lines, as an eye opener to the students ofK.P.
First, I take up the nativity of Sri Kharun, born on 6-2-1954 at Tanjore (10°-47'NL; 79°-10' EL) in themorninghoursat5-39 AMIST.
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~Ja{l~t -. : - . . : ~~nL•• ~ , J ~ . . ' ~ y.... · .Sun Mars Rahu Rahu Mercury Jupiter Mars Saturn Saturn Venus Venus Rahu Moon Mercury Kethu Moon Jupiter Stm
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v 14-8-8 VI 10-8-8 III 14-8-8 IV 16-8-8 Jupiter Kethu
23-13-33 29-36-33 Moon 25-7-33 VII II 10-8-8 NIRAYANA 7-27-47 Mer 8-50-33 BHAVACHAKRAM Balance in Jupiter Venus period at birth:
25-9-33 9y-10m - 7 days VIII
Sun 23-28-33 10-8-8 17-27-47 Rahu XI 14-8-8 X 16-8-8 29-36-33 IX 14-8-8 Mars Saturn XII 10-8-8 4-40-33 16-2-33
The native of this birth chart is now running the major period ofMercury from 13-12-1982 for 17 years.
Mercury is in Lagna bhavam and owns VI & IX. No planets in the stars of Mercury. There is kethu in VI and Saturn in IX. So Mercury is a full significator of! and feebly VI & lXI. And further, Mercury is in the Star ofRahu in XII and hence it signifies XII also.' In Mercury bukthi i.e., from December 1982 to May 1985,
he was an executive in a reputed Madras based firm, as Mercury is in the Sub of Jupiter signifying ll & VTI with substantial earning and with good contacts.
Followed by Kethu bukthi from May 1985 to May 1986. Kethu has no planets in its stars and posited in VI and also in the star of Jupiter in V. Though he enjoyed the service status in that bukthi in terms of the IVthe signification ofKethu, he suffered viccisitudes in his servicdife in terms of the signification of the Sub Lord Moon being V th & Xlltb significator.
Venus bukthi started on 7-5-1986 and was up to 7-3-1989. A deep study over this period will be of use to K.P. students.
Venus is inl..agna bhavam and no planet tenants its stars. Hence Venus signifies, I, V, & X (V & X feebly). Venus is in the star of Mars in X who owns XI th bhavam and no planet in XI also. Hence finally
Ve~~
signifies X & XI apart from I. These significations arefine, promismg peace and prosperity.
But the same Venus occupies the Sub ofRahu in XII signi:fyin~
VII and as node represents Jupiter a full significator ofV, VII, & II.
In terms of these significations ofV, Vll, & ll he was in closer
l~e ~th
a young girl of a big aristocratic family and faced serious difficultJes and challenging opposition ofhigher rnagnititude in tennso~V & Vll. The s~gnification ofll attained by Sub Lord Rahu, got him settled down m a Kutwnbyham ofhis own.
~~te that the Vllth ctisp Sub Lord Kethu posited in the st·..r
~f Jupiter m V tells love marriage and the Sub Lord of the Vth cus
J •t h . .fi p
IS upt er w o Sigm _Ies II tells the girl in love is of high material
~~dard~.
Got married with that girl on 29-1-88 in terms of the SigruficatiO_n of the S~b Lord Rahu attaining V,vn
& II through its representation of J uptter as mentioned above.Then started the bukthi of Sun from 7-3-89 to 13-1-901. Sun is in the~ b~vam and in the star ofMars in X owning
IV & XI. So Sun fully stgrufies X & XI, in tenns of stellar status. As Rahu is in Uthiradam i.e., its star, Sun does not signify VIII.
So in such a bukthi of Sun with such signification ofX & XI
he should have been_ well off in his service. But matter was quit~ contrary. He was obhged to leave his service on moral grounds.
~y? The same Sun is in the Sub ofMars in X. As there are
plane~s m Mars stars it does not signify X. As the same Sub Lord
M~
is stationed in the star ofSatum posited in IX he lost his service dunng March 1989 itself in terms of the Sub Lord signification.The students may now nott~ how the Xth signification of Sun under stellar status did not help the native to retain the service and the IXth signification attained by Sun through Sub Lord has affected his service status. ·
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Then came the bukthi of Moon on 17-1-90 and it is upto
13-5-9 I. Moon is in star of Jupiter in V and so Moon signifies ill & V. This is not a happy status when we consider the luck through its
,stellar signification.
'
If you look into the Sub Lord position, you will note that Moon is in the Sub ofMercury. Mercury is in lagna bhavam and no planet in its stars and so through Sub, Moon attains I & VI signification. Mercury is controlled by rahu (through star) of course in XII. As node, Rahu represents Jupiter a full significator ofll &
VII. This has given him a financial boost and the source being his life partner. This happy matter had occured in theAnthara of Jupiter (3-6-90 to 7-8-90)
Jupiter, theAnthara Lord in V, .in the star ofMoon in II, owning
Vll, and in the Sub of Sun owning Vill in lagna, thereby duly signifying IV, X & XU in full, thus giving the native a big financial status through properties bequeathed to him by his Father-in-law, all of a sudden to the tune of severallakhs (please note Sun is in the star ofMars in
X owning IV & XI) ..
Let me now take up the nativity of Mr. Muthu, born on 12-6-1961 at 7.30 p.m. IST at Chennai 13°4' /80°-17'.
VI 15-35-12 VII 11-28-I 0 IV 18-35-12 Ven 12-33-30 Moon Mercury
v 18-35-12 20-37-10 16-57-50 Sun 38-3-15 VIII III 15-35-12 12-35-12 Ket7-25-40 NIRAYANA Mars BHAVACHAKRAM 27-11-25
Jupiter(R) Balance in Moon period
13-21-15 at birth: Rahu II 12-35-12 2y-Om-13 days 7-25-40 Saturn (R) IX 15-35-12 5-39-15 I 11-28-10 XII 15-35-12 XI18-35-12 X 18-35-12 Krishnamurti Padhdhati 37
Saturn Mercury Venus Mercury
Moon Venus Kethu Rahu
Jupiter Rahu
This native of this horoscope is now running the major period
of Jupiter from 25-6-88 for 16 years and now is Jupiter bukthi upto 13-8-90.
Juptier in II and owns I & IV and no planets in Jupiter stars.
So Jupiter signifies I, IV & II. Jupiter is in the star of Moon in VI
owning Vlll. Summing up, Jupiter signifies I. IV, II, VI & VITI through
stellar. In this bukthi the native got a child on 16-1 0-89.
In terms of stellar significations Jupiter had nothing to do with
V whereas the planet fully signifies, I, IV, VI, & VIII as status not indicative of child birth.
Then how is it? Look into the Sub Lord position of Jupiter, the bukthinatha. It is Rahu Sub wherein Jupiter is posited. Rahu is in the star ofKethu in IT. As node Rahu represents Sun, (Sun posited in the star ofMars owning V and no planet in V), a full significator of
V a house for child birth.
The birth of the child took place during the anthara ofVenus (from 12-7-89 to 20-11-89);
Here Venus is a full significator ofiV as Venus is in IV and no planet tenants the stars ofVenus.
The same Venus is in the Sub of Mercury situated in the star
ofRahu as a node fully represents Sun, a full significator ofVth (Sun
is in the star of Mars owning V and no planet tenants V).
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Further, to go deeper, at the moment the birth had occured, it
wa sthe sookshma of Saturn (from 4-10-89 to 24-1 0-89).
Sookshmanatha Saturn is in the star of Sun signifying VI & Vlll. But being in the Sub of Mercury posited in the star ofRahu and thus controlled by a node, and as node Rahu has acquired the
full signification ofV th, as a full representative of Sun his rasi lord (Sun in the star ofMars owning Vth and no planet is in Vth bhavarn).
Now it is clear that Sub Lord speaks the matter so well and the matter is well indicated.
Good Luck
Sri Mahaganapathaye Namaha
I
SUB - LORD SPEAKS
I
This is the 7th Article under the above series, and I hope by now the students of the KP System might have fully understood the
significance of the usage of the SUBLORD and its inclusion is a
must while rendering prediction
So, I feel I need not repeat the sentences of our beloved GURUJI SRI KSK and at this juncture I opine I am too late to tell
you my dear readers, that Mr. MOHAN is the force behind me to
write these Articles, stressing the utmost importance ofSUBLORD while finally assessing the strength of a planet.
Now I take up the horoscope of my relative at
PODALAKUR, (NELLORE District) and it is hereunder:
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Name Date of birth
Tll're
Place ofbirth
Sri Sri Ramamurthy
20-9-1942 9-30a.m. 1ST
TEN ALI 16° 15°/80° 3 5'
Balance in Sun Period at birth:
1 year; 9 months; and 2 days
VI Rahu XII .Rahu
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Saturn XI22° 35' VI 25" 35' VIII 23° 33' ll027' 36" Jupiter VIII 22"35' 26° 54'56" v 25° 35' VI 23° 35' Kethu 9° 54' 36" NIRAYANA
BHAVA CHAkra B Rahu
IV 23° 35' Balance in Sun Period 9 54'36"
ly -9m - 2 days Venus Moon 15 47'36" 6° 5' 36" IX 25"35" Sun 3°31' 16" Lagna Mr 8°44'36" III22° 35' II 22° 35' XII 25°35' 123° 33' Mercury 29° 31'56"
Ketu Jupiter Mercury Saturn
Moon Mercury Rahu Saturn
Venus Rahu
The native of the horsope is a Teacher by profession and a decent citizen o£Podalakur, a smallmunicipal town in Nell ore District. He was running the major period of rahu from 22-6-61 to 22-6-79. He joined service as Teacher in his 23rd year ie, in the Bukthi of
Jupiter (from 4-3-64 to 28-6-66).
Let me discuss Rahu bukthi (from 22-6-61 to 4-3-64). Rahu
is in the star ofKethu in IV & in the Sub of Saturn in VII (no planet
in Saturn stars) and it is in the star ofMoon in lll owning X. Then he
.was a student ofTeachers' Tranining School and With some failures
he finally and successfully completed during the beginning of 1964 ·
Then came Jupiter buk.thi on 4-3-64. Jupiter is in its own star in IX.
So Jupiter fully signifies IX, hence a negative force for porfessional
status.
The same Jupiter is in the Sub ofVenus placed in Xth in its
own star Pooram. This gave him a permanent footing in a School as a Teacher.
He got married during May 1962 ie .. , in Rahu bukthi (from
22-2-61 to 4-3-64). As told earlier, Rahu through star lord position, signifies IV, but as rahu is in the Sub of Saturn in VII having no
planet in Saturn stars, it signifies VII fully along with V, and so
marriage came up in Rahu bukthi itself
Rahu having the signification of VII, III, & X through Sub, the
entire period went on well and peacefully.
Jupiter period started on 22-6-79 for 16 years. Jupiter is a
full significator of IX having been stationed in its own star Punar-poosam in IXth bhavam. IXth as you all know well, does not promise an undisturbed professional life. At times it causes a negation also.
Here with the advent of Jupiter bukthi, he was elevated to the
status of Assistant Headmaster, without disturbing his domestic life.
No change of place.
As you already know, Jupiter is in the Sub ofVenus in Xth
bhavam in it sown star Pooram, thus fully signifies X & I, and so the
elevation with an administrative status also.
All know he is an ideal Teacher in Podalakur but it is only
unfortunate to tell you that he was involved in a very big criminal
case that went on between 1983 & 1986. His Mercury bukthi
startedon22-2-84and in thevicinityofits starting, on an unfortunate evening, he happened to witness a murder being conunitted, while he was returning from School.
Let us discuss h.ow Mercury is connected to such criminal matters. Mercury is in XII, owning XII and no planet in its stars,
Kettai, Revathi, and Ayilyam. So Mercury signifies Xll fully and IX
feebly, as Jupiter is there.
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Mercury is in the star of Mars in XI owning II & VII. So
Mercury apart from XII, signifies XI, II, & VII also.
XII & VII tells the connection to a crinminal case, as Mars
comes to the scene as star lord of Mercury the bukthi lord. All the
two years, the case went on and as he is an ideal Teacher, he wanted
to tell the matter he witnessed personally. But he was threatened with dire consequences if he were to tell the truth.
He suffered these threats and also enjoyed full support of the
entire public ofPodalalkur side by side all the two years. This event
brought him to public and he was in limelight, as the bukthi lord
Mercury signifies ill & X through its Sub Lord Saturn (Saturn in the
star ofMoon in ill owning X).
The case abruptly ended in the last Anthara of Saturn, just having beenmanupulated to drop him from examination in the witness box, The bukthinatha signification of III & X through Sub and
Antharanatha Saturn signification of II & XI through its Sub Lord, a
powerful position to and his trouble and agony.
Now we shall discuss how there is criminal connection to
Mercury.
He signifies Xll fully and also VII through star lord Mars. So
Mars, VII & Xll culminates into criminal connections.
The star lord sign,iacation of Mercury being VII & XII, have
been converted into ill & X through Sub Lord status and his status
has gone high in the envirunn1ent, with the result he became known
to one and all in Podalakur and this bukthi broguht him to the
forefront.
Now I shall take up the birth chart of a woman by name Sow R
Born at P -44 AM 1ST on 11-9-1961 at Madras 13° 04' I
80° 17'.
Balance in Sun period at birth - 1 year; and 15 days.
v 21° 8' VI 20° 8' vn 16° 48' VIII J60 8'
IV 19° 8' IX 17° 8'
Kethu NIRA~NA Venus
2° 37' BRA VA CHAkram 21°46'
III 17° 08' Balance in Sun period
Jupiter at birth: Rahu 2° 37' 4° 16' (R) ly- 0 m-15 days X 19° 08' Sat. 0° 10' (R) Sun 24" 58' Moon 7°46' 11 J60 08' I 16° 48' Xll20° 8' Mere. 16° 17' Lagna XI 21° 08' Mars 23° 01'
Ketu Kethu Mercury Saturn
Moon Mercury Rahu Venus
Venus SW1
III Saturn IX Mercury
IV Moon X Rahu
v
Venus XI VenusVI Jupiter XII Jupiter
Here I am discussing the Dasa period, which brought her marnage.
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Date of marriage is 14-5-1985. At the time of marriage she was running the major period ofRahu (from 26-9-79 to 26-9-97).
Rahu is in IX and no planet in its stars and so Rahu signifiesiX
fully.
Rahu is in the star ofKethu in lllrd bhavam and hence it gets
lllrd signification also. Rahu is in the Sub ofVenus in IX owning Vll &XII.
Venus is in the star of Mercury in X owning XI & Vlll. So Rahu signifies III, IX, through star and X, XI, & VIII through Sub.
Significations of III, IX, XI, & VIII do support material matters. At the time of marriage, she was running the bukthi.ofSatum from 2-11-84 to 8-9-87.
Saturn is in II and no planet in its stars as such it signifies II fully. Saturn in the star of Sun in x owning X and Saturn owns IVth
and so Saturn is embibed with more detrimental significations for martital matter such as X & IV.
Through Sub, we shall discuss.
Saturn is in the Sub ofRahu signifying ill & IX. Further Rahu the Sub Lord being Node represents Sun, who is a significator of
VII & IX fully (Stm is in the star ofVenus in IX owning VII).
Hence maftiage took place in the bukthi of Saturn.
Let us now discuss why the marriage did not come up in the
bukthi of Jupiter (from 8-6-82 to 2-11-84).
No planet in the star of Jupiter and it is in lind bhavam and so
Jupiter signifies 11 & V fully. Jupiter in the star of Sun in X owning X. Jupiter has got better signification for bringing about marriage
comparable to Saturn through star lord signification. But Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn and Saturn is in the star of Sun in X owning X and Satmn has no planet in its stars and owns IV. Summing up it can be stated that Jupiter is in the Sub of Saturn signifying X & IV.
. . Hence ~e Su~ Lo~ signification of Jupiter had negated the marnage conung up m Jupiter bukthi. ·
During Mercury bukthi (from 8-9-87 to 26-3-90) she had
the luc~ of purchasing and owning a big house.
~ook at the star lord position ofMercury. It is in the star of
Moon m X. As there is a planet in its star, Mercury does not signify XI. IVth signification is not at all seen here.
Now let us discuss the Sub Lord ofMercury. It is in Saturn Sub and Saturn is in II and no planet
In
Saturn stars and it ownsNth cusp and no planet inN. ·
Hence through Sub, Mercury has ll & Nth faculties and hence the purchase ofhouse during the bukthi ofMercury.
Now I take up another birth chart of one Sow J. Born at 2.58 AM 1ST on 20-12-1962 at Chennai 13o04 '/80o 17'.
VI VII VIII J4024'IX 51" 17o:l4 '51, 15°47'33" 15o:l4'51" v 15°24'51" Rahu Jupiter 7°53'49" 13'41 '33" NIRAYANA X BHAVA CHAKRAM 14~4'51" aturn Balance in Moon period
15°21 '22" Mars
rv J4o:l4:5J" at birth 1°13'35"
Ketu 6 Yrs; 7 M; 20 Days XI
7°53'49" 15o:l4'51, Mercury Venus Moon . 17°40'28" II I.U J4024'51" 15~4'51" 23°46'51" 14~8'51, Sun Lagna xu 6°11'4" 15°47'33" 17°24'51"
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Cusp Sub-lord Cusp Sub-lord
I Venus VII Sun
II Jupiter VIII Jupiter
III Venus IX Mercury
IV Jupiter- X Rahu
v
Venus XI VenusVI Mercury XII Satwn
Currently she is nmnirig the major period ofRahu from August
1976 to August 1994.
Rahu is in the star of Saturn inN and
it
gave her collegiate education and was graduated during Saturn bukthi in terms of the,: .Nth signification ofRahu the Dasanatha and the bukthi lord Saturn
signifying XI duly posited inN and Saturn signifying IV fully being
in the Sub of Jupiter inN signifying IX.
Her marriage had taken place on 15-5-1985, during the bukthi ofMercury. Let us discuss Mercury bukthi and its signification.
Mercury is in III and owns IX and XII. No planets in the
stars ofMercury. So Mercur}r signifies ill,~ & XII, Again Mercury
is in the star of Venus in Lagna and so Mercury gets lagna and VIIIth signification also.
Mercury bukthi ran from 22-7-84 to 2-12-87. Mercury through star signifies III, IX, XII, I, & VTII. these significations
cannot give marriage except betrothal. But she got married. How?
Look into the Sub Lord ofMercury . .Jt is Mars. Mars has no planets
in its star and is in X. Mars owns II & VII, and so fully signifies 11 &
VII. Hence Mercury gets II & Vll significations through Sub Lord,
apart from its III & IX significations through star lord.
Marriage was celebrated on 15-5-85 and it was Venus Anthara between 25-1-85 to 28-6-85.
