Formal Minutes Session

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House of Commons

Home Affairs Committee

Formal Minutes

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The Home Affairs Committee

The Home Affairs Committee is appointed by the House of Commons to examine the expenditure, administration, and policy of the Home Office and its

associated public bodies.

Current membership

Rt Hon Keith Vaz MP (Labour, Leicester East) (Chair) Ian Austin MP (Labour, Dudley North)

Nicola Blackwood MP (Conservative, Oxford West and Abingdon) James Clappison MP (Conservative, Hertsmere)

Michael Ellis MP (Conservative, Northampton North) Paul Flynn MP (Labour, Newport West)

Lorraine Fullbrook MP (Conservative, South Ribble) Dr Julian Huppert MP (Liberal Democrat, Cambridge)

Tim Loughton MP (Conservative, East Worthing and Shoreham) Yasmin Qureshi MP (Labour, Bolton South East)

Mr David Winnick MP (Labour, Walsall North)

The following Members were also members of the Committee during the parliament.

Steve McCabe MP (Labour, Birmingham Selly Oak)

Rt Hon Alun Michael (Labour & Co-operative, Cardiff South and Penarth) Bridget Phillipson MP (Labour, Houghton and Sunderland South) Mark Reckless MP (UK Independence Party, Rochester and Strood) Chris Ruane MP (Labour, Vale of Clwyd)

Karl Turner MP (Labour, Kingston upon Hull East)

Powers

The Committee is one of the departmental select committees, the powers of which are set out in House of Commons Standing Orders, principally in SO No 152. These are available on the Internet via www.parliament.uk.

Publication

The Reports and evidence of the Committee are published by The Stationery Office by Order of the House. All publications of the Committee (including press notices) are on the Internet at www.parliament.uk/homeaffairscom.

Committee staff

The current staff of the Committee are Tom Healey (Clerk), John-Paul Flaherty (Second Clerk), Duma Langton (Committee Specialist), Ruth Martin (Committee Specialist), Andy Boyd (Senior Committee Assistant), Iwona Hankin (Committee Support Officer) and Alex Paterson (Select Committee Media Officer).

Contacts

All correspondence should be addressed to the Clerk of the Home Affairs Committee, House of Commons, 7 Millbank, London SW1P 3JA. The telephone number for general enquiries is 020 7219 2049; the Committee’s email address is

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Proceedings of the Home Affairs Committee

Tuesday 10 June 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Mark Reckless David Winnick 1. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Washington DC and Baltimore, in connection with its

inquiry into Gangs and youth crime.

Resolved, That the Committee hold a training session for Parliamentarians on visiting places

of detention for irregular migrants and asylum seekers, at the proposal of the Migration Committee of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe.

2. Gangs and youth crime

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Gangs and youth crime be reported

to the House for publication on the internet: Kirsty Varley; National Children's Bureau; Centre for Mental Health; David Bethom; Damian Allain; Children's Commissioner for England; Greater Manchester Police; London Youth; XLP; Safer London Foundation; London Borough of Lambeth; Msunderstood Partnership UK; Catch22 Dawes Unit; Manchester Gang Research Network; London Borough of Hackney, Safer Communities and Young Hackney; Whitney Iles; Dave Thompson QPM, Deputy Chief Constable, West Midlands Police; Independent Police Complaints Commission; Wales Probation; Amanda Wood; 4Children; Home Office; Paul Kassman, Director of Urban Acumen CiC; Metropolitan Police; Police Federation of England and Wales; and Youth Justice Board for England and Wales (GYC 01-27).[GYC number 26 is unreported]

Edward Boyd, Centre for Social Justice, and Sheldon Thomas, Gangsline, gave oral evidence.

3. The work of the Metropolitan Police

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the work of the Metropolitan Police

be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Craig Mackey QPM, Deputy Commissioner, Metropolitan Police, 2 June 2014.

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4. Policing and mental health

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Policing and mental health be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Home Office; Royal College of Physicians; and INQUEST (PMH 39-42).[PMH number 41 is unreported]

5. The work of the Immigration Directorates

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Immigration

Directorates Q4 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Sarah Rapson, Director General, UK Visas & Immigration Directorate, 14 May 2014; Letter from James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, 15 May 2014; Letter from Kash Chaudry, Regional Director Africa, Home Office, 15 May 2014; and Letter from Andy Smith, Account Director, United Kingdom, SITA, 6 June 2014.

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Wednesday 11 June 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Mark Reckless 1. Tobacco smuggling

Draft Report (Tobacco smuggling), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report of the Committee, HC 200.

2. Future programme

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Yasmin Qureshi Mark Reckless David Winnick

1. The work of HM Passport Office

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of HM Passport Office be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Paula Vennells, Chief Executive, Post Office, 17 June 2014

Mike Jones, Home Office group secretary, Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS); Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, and Registrar General for England and Wales, gave oral evidence.

2. Radicalisation in schools

Lee Donaghy, Assistant Principal, Park View School, Birmingham; Mark Rogers, Chief Executive, and Cllr Brigid Jones, Cabinet Member for Children and Family Services, Birmingham City Council, gave oral evidence.

3. Female genital mutilation

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Female genital mutilation be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Norman Baker MP, Minister for Crime Prevention, 12 June 2014; Letter from Alison Saunders, Director of Public Prosecutions, 10 June 2014 (FGM 58-59).

reported to the House for publication on the internet: David Mery supplementary (PMH 43). [Adjourned till Tuesday 24 June 2014 at 2.30 p.m.]

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin

Michael Ellis

Dr Julian Huppert David Winnick

2. Consideration of Special Report: Leadership and standards in the police: follow–up: Government Response to the Committee's Tenth Report of Session 2013–14

Draft Special Report (Leadership and standards in the police: follow–up: Government

Response to the Committee's Tenth Report of Session 2013–14), proposed by the Chair,

brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Tenth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2013–14, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the First Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

6. The work of the Immigration Directorates (2013 Q4)

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Immigration

Directorates (2013 Q4) be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from

Cristel Amiss, Project co-ordinator, Black Women's Rape Action Project, 19 June 2014; Letter from Chris Hobbs, 20 June 2014; Letter from Harriet Wistrich, 23 June 2014; and Survey responses from Registrars of England & Wales, 24 June 2014.

John Vine CBE QPM, Independent Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration; Jonathan Kershner, Registration and Coroner Services Manager, Manchester Register Office, and Alicja Gilroy, Superintendent Registrar, Oxford Register Office; Dr Bob McGuiness, Chief Executive of the UK Central Government Division, Serco, and James Thorburn, Managing Director, Home Affairs, Serco; Peter Neden, Regional President UK & Ireland, G4S, and Jerry Petherick, Managing Director, Custodial and Detention Services, G4S, gave oral evidence.

7. Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming: follow-up

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Child sexual exploitation and the

response to localised grooming: follow-upbe reported to the House for publication on the

internet: Les May; Brian Bamford; Eddie Sharrock; and John Walker (LCG 01-04).

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Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Policing and mental health be reported to the House for publication on the internet: David Mery further supplementary (PMH 44).

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, 20 June 2014.

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Wednesday 25 June 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Michael Ellis

Dr Julian Huppert

Yasmin Qureshi Mark Reckless

1. Female genital mutilation: the case for a national action plan

Draft Report (Female genital mutilation: the case for a national action plan), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Second Report of the Committee, HC 201.

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Tuesday 1 July 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Yasmin Qureshi Mark Reckless David Winnick 1. Future programme

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Black Mental Health UK (PMH 45). Matilda MacAttram, Director, Black Mental Health UK, Dominic Williamson, Chief Executive, Revolving Doors Agency, and Pat Kenny, Member of Revolving Doors’ National Service User Forum; Deborah Coles, Co-Director, INQUEST, Tony Herbert and Barbara Montgomery, parents of James Herbert, gave oral evidence.

The Committee considered this matter. Simon Danczuk MP, gave oral evidence.

4. Specialist Adviser

Ordered, That Charlie Edwards, Director National Security & Resilience, RUSI, be

re-appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its Serious and organised crime

inquiry.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, 25 June 2014.

Soren Lundsberg-Nielsen, Group General Counsel, G4S plc, 27 June 2014.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Yasmin Qureshi Mark Reckless David Winnick 1. Future programme

Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, and Registrar General for England and Wales, gave oral evidence.

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Child sexual exploitation and the

response to localised grooming: follow-up be reported to the House for publication on the

internet: Letter from Mark Sedwill, Permanent Secretary, Home Office, 5 July 2014 (LCG 05). Mark Sedwill, Permanent Secretary, Home Office, gave oral evidence.

Carol Davies and Tom Sackville, Catch22 Dawes Unit, and Junior Smart and Antoinette Harriott, St Giles Trust, gave oral evidence.

5. Radicalisation in schools

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Radicalisation in schools be reported

to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 24 June 2014.

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Monday 14 July 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert David Winnick 1. Future programme

2. Consideration of Special Report: Reform of the Police Federation: Government Response to the Committee’s Eighteenth Report of Session 2013–14

Draft Special Report (Reform of the Police Federation: Government Response to the

Committee’s Eighteenth Report of Session 2013–14), proposed by the Chair, brought up,

read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Eighteenth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2013–14, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Second Special Report of the Committee to the House.

3. The work of the Home Secretary

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of the Home Secretary be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Sam Smith and Phil Booth, medConfidential (WHS 01).

Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, gave oral evidence.

4. Draft Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill

Motion made, and Question put, That the Chair write to the Home Secretary on the Committee’s behalf about the draft Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill.—(The

Chair.)

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 4 Noes, 1

Ian Austin David Winnick

Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert

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The Committee considered a draft letter, proposed by the Chair.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Chair write to the Home Secretary in the terms set out in the draft letter which the Committee has considered.—(The Chair.)

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 4 Noes, 1

Ian Austin David Winnick

Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert

Ordered, That the Chair write to the Home Secretary in the terms set out in the draft letter

which the Committee has considered.

internet: Letter from Mark Sedwill, Permanent Secretary, Home Office, 11 July 2014 (LCG 06).

6. Female Genital Mutilation

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Female Genital Mutilation be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Children and Families Across Borders (CFAB) correction (FGM 60).

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of HM Passport Office be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, and Registrar General for England and Wales, 14 July 2014.

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of the Immigration

Dr Bob McGuiness, Acting Chief Executive Officer, Serco UK, dated 7 July 2014; and Letter from Emma Mlotshwa, Co-ordinator, Medical Justice, dated 14 May 2014.

James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, dated 25 June 2014.

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Paul Flynn

2. The work of the Immigration Directorates (October–December 2013)

Draft Report (The work of the Immigration Directorates (October–December 2013)), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Third Report of the Committee, HC 237.

3. Consideration of Special Report: The work of the Immigration Directorates (April– September 2013): Government Response to the Committee’s Fifteenth Report of Session 2013–14

Draft Special Report (The work of the Immigration Directorates (April–September 2013):

Government Response to the Committee’s Fifteenth Report of Session 2013–14), proposed

by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Fifteenth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2013–14, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Third Special Report of the Committee to the House.

4. The work of the Border Force

Sir Charles Montgomery, Director General, Border Force, gave oral evidence.

James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, Mandie Campbell, Director General, Immigration Enforcement Directorate, and Sarah Rapson, Director General, UK Visas & Immigration Directorate, gave oral evidence.

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internet: Mark Standing (PMH 46).

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Tuesday 2 September 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Yasmin Qureshi Mark Reckless 1. Future programme

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Policing and mental health be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: College of Paramedics (PMH 47). Inspector Michael Brown, West Midlands Police, gave oral evidence.

3. Police, the media, and high-profile criminal investigations

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Police, the media, and high-profile

criminal investigations be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from

Shaun Wright, South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner, 20 August 2014; Letter from Lord Hall, Director General, BBC, 21 August 2014; Letter from Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police, 22 August 2014; Letter from James Harding, Director of News and Current Affairs, BBC, to David Crompton, Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, 29 August 2014; Letter from Martin Hewitt, Assistant Commissioner, Metropolitan Police, to the Chair of the Committee, 29 August 2014; Letter from Gideon Benaim, on behalf of Michael Simkins LLP, to the Chair of the Committee, 1 September 2014; Letter from Martin Hewitt, Assistant Commissioner, Metropolitan Police, to the Chair of the Committee, 2 September 2014 (PME 01-07).

Chief Constable David Crompton QPM, South Yorkshire Police, gave oral evidence.

Lord Hall of Birkenhead, Director General, James Harding, Director of News and Current Affairs, and Jonathan Munro, Head of Newsgathering, BBC, gave oral evidence.

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Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Gangs and youth crime be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Mark Rostron; Catch22 Dawes Unit supplementary (GYC 28-29).

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of the Border Force be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Sir Charles Montgomery, Director General, Border Force, 1 August 2014.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Paul Pugh, Chief Executive, HM Passport Office, 26 August 2014.

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Wednesday 3 September 2014

Paul Flynn

Dr Julian Huppert Mark Reckless

1. Her Majesty’s Passport Office: delays in processing applications

Draft Report (Her Majesty’s Passport Office: delays in processing applications), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fourth Report of the Committee, HC 238.

Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police, 3 September 2014 (PME 08). [Adjourned till Tuesday 9 September 2014 at 2.15 p.m.]

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Tuesday 9 September 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Mark Reckless David Winnick 1. Future programme

Jayne Senior, Former Project Manager, Risky Business; Former Researcher, Home Office funded research and development project, and Dr Angie Heal, Research Associate, Justice and Sexual Violence Project, gave oral evidence in private.

Ordered, that Peter Wanless and Richard Whittam QC not appear as witnesses on this date.

Chief Constable David Crompton QPM and former Chief Constable Meredydd John Hughes CBE QPM, South Yorkshire Police; Martin Kimber, Chief Executive, and Joyce Thacker OBE, Strategic Director for Children, Young People and Families, Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council; Shaun Wright, South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner, gave oral evidence on oath.

internet: Former Home Office researcher; Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police, dated 5 September 2014; Shaun Wright, S Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner; Chief Constable David Crompton, S Yorkshire Police, dated 8 September 2014; and Peter Wanless and Richard Whittam QC, dated 9 September 2014 (LCG 07-11).

Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police, 5 September 2014; Letter from James Harding, Director of News and Current Affairs, BBC, 5 September 2014 (PME 10-11).

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of the Immigration

James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, 2 September 2014.

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Tuesday 14 October 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee visit Cambridge for a seminar, in connection with its inquiry

into Drugs policy.

Dr Charlie Howard, MAC-UK and Lorraine Khan, Centre for Mental Health, gave oral evidence.

3. The work of the National Crime Agency

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to the work of the National Crime

Agency be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Keith Bristow

QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency, 8 October 2014.

Keith Bristow QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency, gave oral evidence.

4. European Arrest Warrant

Alison Saunders, Director of Public Prosecutions, Crown Prosecution Service, gave oral evidence.

5. Child sexual exploitation & the response to localised grooming: follow-up

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Child sexual exploitation & the

internet: Shaun Wright, South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner; Dr Angie Heal; Peter Wanless and Richard Whittam QC; Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary; Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police; Councillor Harry Harpham, Chair, South Yorkshire Police and Crime Panel; and Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police (LCG 12-18).

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criminal investigations be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Dan

Johnson, BBC News; and Detective Superintendent Matt Fenwick, South Yorkshire Police (PME 12-13).

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Policing and mental health be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Howard League for Penal Reform; Alex Crisp; and Michael Brown supplementary (PMH 50-52).

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to The work of the Border Force be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Sir Charles Montgomery, Director General, Border Force, 8 September 2014.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 26 September 2014.

10.The work of the Immigration Directorates (2014 Q1)

John Keefe, Director of Public Affairs, Groupe Eurotunnel, 26 September 2014.

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Wednesday 15 October 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair James Clappison

Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Police, the media, and high-profile criminal investigations be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Carrie Goodwin, Head of Corporate Communications, South Yorkshire Police (PME 14).

Draft Report (Police, the media, and high-profile criminal investigations), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fifth Report of the Committee, HC 629.

internet: Peter Wanless and Richard Whittam QC; and Parents Against Child Sexual Exploitation (Pace) (LCG 19-20).

Draft Report (Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming: follow-up), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Sixth Report of the Committee, HC 203.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert David Winnick 1. Future programme

2. Historic child abuse

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Historic child abuse be reported to

the House for publication on the internet: Fiona Woolf, Chair of the independent inquiry into historical child sexual abuse, 21 October 2014.

Fiona Woolf, Chair of the independent inquiry into historical child sexual abuse, gave oral evidence.

Lord Adebowale CBE, Chief Executive, Turning Point; David Davis, College of Paramedics, Karla Wilson-Palmer, Royal College of Nursing, and Dr Mary Jane Tacchi, Royal College of Psychiatrists, gave oral evidence.

4. Child sexual exploitation & the response to localised grooming: follow-up

internet: Martin Kimber, Chief Executive, Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council; and Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police (LCG 21-22).

5. Consideration of Special Report: The work of the Immigration Directorates (October–December 2013): Government Response to the Committee’s Third Report of Session 2014–15

Draft Special Report (The work of the Immigration Directorates (October-December 2013):

Government Response to the Committee’s Third Report of Session 2014–15), proposed by

the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Third Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2014–15, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Fourth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert David Winnick

1. Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000.

Ordered, That Sir Paul Kennedy, Interception of Communications Commissioner, attend the

Committee on 4 November 2014.

2. Serious and Organised Crime

Resolved, That the Committee visit Dubai, in connection with its inquiry into Serious and

Organised Crime.

Natacha Bouchart, Mayor of Calais, Philippe Mignonet, Deputy Mayor of Calais, and Emmanuel Aguis, First Deputy to the Mayor, gave oral evidence.

Sergeant Ian Kressinger, Devon & Cornwall Police, and Sergeant Andy Shaw, Essex Police; Simon Cole, Leicestershire Police, Former ACPO lead on mental health, and Mark Smith, Head of Suicide Prevention and Mental Health, British Transport Police, gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Dr Julian Huppert was called to the Chair.

Simon Cole, Leicestershire Police, Former ACPO lead on mental health, and Mark Smith, Head of Suicide Prevention and Mental Health, British Transport Police, gave further oral evidence.

5. Consideration of special report: Tobacco smuggling: Government Response to the Committee’s First Report of Session 2014–15

Draft Special Report (Tobacco smuggling: Government Response to the Committee’s First

Report of Session 2014–15), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second

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The Government’s response to the First Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2014–15, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Fifth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Police, the media, and high-profile

Gideon Benaim, Michael Simkins LLP, 22 October 2014

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Regulation of Investigatory Powers

Act 2000 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Joint letter from Keith

Bristow QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency, and Sir Hugh Orde OBE, QPM, President, Association of Chief Police Officers, dated 22 October 2014; and letter from Sir Paul Kennedy, Interception of Communications Commissioner, dated 20 October 2014.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Border Force be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Sir Charles Montgomery, Director General, Border Force, dated 15 October 2014.

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Tuesday 4 November 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee visit Calais and Paris, in connection with its inquiry into The

work of the Immigration Directorates.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Historic child abuse be reported to

the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Fiona Woolf, Lord Mayor of London, dated 29 October 2014.

The Rt Hon Sir Paul Kennedy, Interception of Communications Commissioner, gave oral evidence, in accordance with the Committee’s Order of 28 October.

Michelle Stanistreet, General Secretary, National Union of Journalists; Maxine de Brunner, ACPO National Lead for Lawful Intercept, Richard Berry, ACPO National Policing Lead for Communications Data, and Chief Constable Mick Creedon, Derbyshire Constabulary, gave oral evidence.

4. The work of the National Crime Agency

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the National Crime

Agency be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Keith Bristow

QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency, dated 29 October 2014.

The Committee further considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 November 2014 at 11.20 a.m.]

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Chair write to the Home Secretary.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Historic child abuse be reported to

the House for publication on the internet: Letters from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, dated 5 and 11 November 2014.

Alison Millar, Counsel for the victims groups, Peter Saunders, Chief Executive, National Association for People Abused in Childhood (NAPAC), and Hilary Willmer, Parents against child sexual exploitation (PACE); Peter Wanless, NSPCC, and Richard Whittam QC, gave oral evidence.

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Tuesday 11 November 2014 (Second meeting)

Lorraine Fullbrook

Act 2000 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Sir Paul Kennedy,

Interception of Communications Commissioner (RIP 04).

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, Metropolitan Police Commissioner, gave oral evidence.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Chief Constable Simon Cole, Leicestershire Police supplementary; and Lord Victor Adebowale CBE supplementary (PMH 53-54).

Rt Hon Norman Lamb MP, Minister of State for Care and Support, Ann McDonald, Deputy Director, Mental Health and Disability, Department for Health, and Rt Hon Mike Penning MP, Minister of State for Policing, gave oral evidence.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the Counter-terrorism Bill.

Peter Cullum, Head of International Affairs, Road Haulage Association, John Keefe, Director of Public Affairs, Eurotunnel, and Tim Reardon, Head of Taxation, Ferry and Cruise, UK Chamber of Shipping; James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, Mandie Campbell, Director General, Immigration Enforcement Directorate, and Sarah Rapson, Director General, UK Visas and Immigration Directorate, gave oral evidence.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: NHS England (PMH 55).

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton David Winnick

1. Effectiveness of the Committee in 2012-13

Draft Report (Effectiveness of the Committee in 2012-13), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Seventh Report of the Committee, HC 825.

3. The work of the Permanent Secretary

Mark Sedwill CMG, Permanent Secretary, Home Office, gave oral evidence.

DCI Debbie Dooley, Xcalibre Task Force & Integrated Gang Management Unit, Greater Manchester Police, gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Lorraine Fullbrook was called to the Chair.

John Poyton, Chief Executive, Redthread and Dr Emer Sutherland, King’s College Hospital, gave oral evidence.

5. Asylum

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Asylum be reported to the House

for publication on the internet: Letter from Stephen Small, Managing Director, Immigration and Borders, G4S, dated 5 July 2013.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Child sexual exploitation and the

internet: Letter from Keith Bristow QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency, dated 20 November 2014.

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Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Policing and mental health be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Rt Hon Mike Penning MP, Minister for Policing, Criminal Justice and Victims; Paul Bacon, Bryan and Armstrong Solicitors; and Royal College of Psychiatrists supplementary (PMH 56-58).

8. Reform of the Police Federation

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Reform of the Police Federation be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Jayne Monkhouse OBE and Ian Rennie, dated 14 November 2014.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Home Secretary be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, dated 20 November 2014.

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Wednesday 3 December 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair James Clappison Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton David Winnick

Draft Report (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Eighth Report of the Committee, HC 711.

Act 2000 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: John McDonnell MP,

Secretary of the NUJ Parliamentary Group; Assistant Chief Constable Richard Berry, National Policing Lead for Communications Data; and Michelle Stanistreet, General Secretary, National Union of Journalists (RIP 05-07).

2. Consideration of special report: Police, the media, and high–profile criminal investigations: Government Response to the Committee's Fifth Report of Session 2014–15

Draft Special Report (Police, the media, and high–profile criminal investigations: Government

Response to the Committee's Fifth Report of Session 2014–15), proposed by the Chair,

brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Fifth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2014–15, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Sixth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

4. Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Helen Ball, Counter-terrorism Senior National Coordinator for Terrorist Investigations, Metropolitan Police; Shami Chakrabarti, Director, Liberty; David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Michael Ellis was called to the Chair.

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Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Big Brother Watch (CTB 01).

Mandie Campbell, Director General, Immigration Enforcement Directorate, dated 26 November 2014; Letter from James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, dated 27 November 2014; and Letter from Leigh Daynes, Executive Director, Doctors of the World UK, dated 28 November 2014.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 9 December 2014 at 2.30 p.m.]

Thursday 4 --- Friday 5 December 2014

The Chair, Tim Loughton and David Winnick visited Paris and Calais, in connection with its inquiry into The work of the Immigration Directorates, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of Tuesday 4

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Tuesday 9 December 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick

1. Committee visit to Paris and Calais, 4 and 5 December 2014

2. College of Policing

Sir Hugh Orde OBE, QPM, President, Association of Chief Police Officers; Steve White, Chair, and Andy Fittes, General Secretary, Police Federation of England and Wales gave oral evidence;

In the absence of the Chair, Paul Flynn was called to the Chair.

Steve White, Chair, and Andy Fittes, General Secretary, Police Federation of England and Walesgave oral evidence;

Keith Vaz resumed the Chair

Professor Dame Shirley Pearce, Chair, and Alex Marshall, Chief Executive, College of Policing, gave oral evidence.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to College of Policing be reported to

the House for publication on the internet: Royal College of Radiologists; Royal College of Anaesthetists; Royal College of Physicians; and Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons (COP 01-04).

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Gangs and youth crime be reported

to the House for publication on the internet: DCI Debbie Dooley, Manchester Police (GYC 30).

Act 2000 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Sir Bernard

Hogan-Howe, Metropolitan Police Commissioner (RIP 08).

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Monday 15 December 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Out-of-Court Disposals.

Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, gave oral evidence.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Home Secretary be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letters fromRt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, dated 8, 11, 11 and 15 December 2014.

Act 2000 be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Christopher Graham,

Information Commissioner (RIP 09).

Peter Cullum, Head of International Affairs, Road Haulage Association, dated 10 December 2014.

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Wednesday 17 December 2014

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin

Paul Flynn

Lorraine Fullbrook

1. The work of the Immigration Directorates (January-June 2014)

Draft Report (The work of the Immigration Directorates (January–June 2014)), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Ninth Report of the Committee, HC 712.

2. Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Center for Democracy & Technology (CTS 02).

[Adjourned till Tuesday 6 January 2015 at 2.30 p.m.]

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Tuesday 6 January 2015

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Police Information Notices.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into Police bail.

2. Out-of-Court Disposals

Richard Monkhouse, Chairman, Magistrates' Association; Chief Constable Lynne Owens, QPM, Surrey Police, National Policing Lead on Out-of-Court Disposals,gave oral evidence.

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Home Office and the Department of Health (PMH 59).

Lord Bates, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Criminal Information, Home Office, dated 23 December 2014.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton David Winnick 1. Future programme

2. Police Information Notices

Chief Constable Sara Thornton CBE QPM, Thames Valley Police, Assistant Chief Constable Garry Shewan QPM, Greater Manchester Police, ACPO lead for Stalking and Harassment, and Martin Richards QPM, former Chief Constable of Sussex Police; Katy Bourne, Police and Crime Commissioner for Sussex, and Kevin Hurley, Police and Crime Commissioner for Surrey, gave oral evidence.

3. Counter-terrorism in Europe

Rob Wainwright, Director, Europol,gave oral evidence.

4. Policing in London

Stephen Greenhalgh, Deputy Mayor of London,gave oral evidence.

5. College of Policing

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to College of Policing be reported to

the House for publication on the internet: College of Policing (COP 05).

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Out-of-Court Disposals be reported

to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Chief Constable Lynne Owens, QPM, Surrey Police, 8 January 2015.

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Paul Flynn

Dr Julian Huppert

Tim Loughton David Winnick

Rt Hon Lynne Featherstone MP, Minister of State for Crime Prevention,gave oral evidence.

2. Independent panel inquiry into child sexual abuse

Drusilla Sharpling CBE, Member, Professor Jenny Pearce OBE, Member, Sharon Evans, Member, and Professor Alexis Jay OBE, Expert Advisor, Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, gave oral evidence.

3. Police National Database

Chief Constable Paul Crowther OBE, British Transport Police,gave oral evidence.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Out-of-Court Disposals be reported

to the House for publication on the internet: Magistrates' Association; and Nacro [OCD 02 and 04].

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to The work of the Home Secretary be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 15 January 2015.

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Monday 26 January 2015

Paul Flynn Tim Loughton

Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick

Ben Emmerson QC, Counsel to the Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse,gave oral evidence.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to Independent panel inquiry into

child sexual abuse be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from

Angela Kyle, Head of Secretariat, Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, 23 January 2015; Letter from Ben Emmerson QC, Counsel, Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, 23 January 2015; Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 23 January 2015; and further background papers submitted to the Committee.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton David Winnick 1. Future programme

3. Female genital mutilation: follow-up

Leyla Hussein, Daughters of Eve; Alimatu Dimonekene, FGM Campaigner and Survivor; Detective Chief Superintendent Keith Niven, Metropolitan Police; Professor Nigel Mathers, Royal College of General Practitioners, and Janet Fyle, Royal College of Midwives, gave oral evidence.

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Tuesday 3 February 2015

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Tim Loughton David Winnick

1. Evaluating the new architecture of policing: the College of Policing and the National Crime Agency

Draft Report (Evaluating the new architecture of policing: the College of Policing and the

National Crime Agency), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Tenth Report of the Committee, HC 800.

Draft Report (Policing and mental health), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Eleventh Report of the Committee, HC 202.

3. Counter-terrorism

Sally Evans and her son Micheal Evans; Dr Usama Hasan, Senior Researcher, Quilliam, and Dr Erin Saltman, Senior Researcher, Institute for Strategic Dialogue; Jamie Bartlett, Director, Demos, gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Tim Loughton was called to the Chair.

Jamie Bartlett, Director, Demos,gave oral evidence.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

2. The work of the Immigration Directorates (July-September 2014)

Directorates (July-September 2014) be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Letter from Sir James Dyson, 14 January 2015

James Brokenshire MP, Minister for Security and Immigration, Mandie Campbell, Director General, Immigration Enforcement Directorate, and Sarah Rapson, Director General, UK Visas and Immigration Directorate,gave oral evidence.

Sir Charles Montgomery, Director General, Border Force,gave oral evidence.

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Wednesday 11 February 2015 (First meeting)

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick

1. Appointment of the Chair of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Appointment of the Chair of the

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse be reported to the House for publication on the

internet: Letter from Rt Hon Theresa May MP, Home Secretary, 11 February 2015.

The Chair declared that, before becoming a Member of Parliament, he worked in local government dealing with child care matters.

Michael Ellis declared that, before becoming a Member of Parliament, he was a barrister in criminal practice and dealt with a range of cases, including sexual offences.

David Winnick declared that, in the mid-1960s, he was chair of a local authority children’s committee before the reorganisation into social services.

Yasmin Qureshi declared that before becoming a Member of Parliament she was a criminal practitioner, a barrister dealing with historical child sexual abuse cases and also representing parents of children who were taken away by local authorities.

James Clappison declared that he was a member of the Bar, but had not practiced for some years.

The Honourable Justice Lowell Goddard, Chair-designate of the Statutory Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse, gave oral evidence.

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Wednesday 11 February 2015 (Second meeting)

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Lorraine Fullbrook Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick

1. Appointment of the Chair of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

Draft Report (Appointment of the Chair of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Twelfth Report of the Committee, HC 710.

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Keith Vaz, in the Chair Nicola Blackwood James Clappison Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Dr Julian Huppert Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee invite Dr Temel Kotil, CEO of Turkish Airlines, and the Turkish

Ambassador, Abdurrahman Bilgiç, to give oral evidence on Counter-terrorism.

Draft Report (Gangs and youth crime), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Thirteenth Report of the Committee, HC 199.

3. Consideration of special report: Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming – follow-up: Government Response to the Committee's Sixth Report of Session 2014–15

Draft Special Report (Child sexual exploitation and the response to localised grooming –

follow-up: Government Response to the Committee's Sixth Report of Session 2014–15),

proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Sixth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2014–15, was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Seventh Special Report of the Committee to the House.

4. Consideration of special report: Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000: Government Response to the Committee's Eighth Report of Session 2014–15

Draft Special Report (Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000: Government Response to

the Committee's Eighth Report of Session 2014–15), proposed by the Chair, brought up,

read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Eighth Report from the Home Affairs Committee, Session 2014–15, was appended to the Report.

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5. Serious and organised crime

Karen Bradley MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Modern Slavery and Organised Crime; Keith Bristow QPM, Director General, National Crime Agency,gave oral evidence.

6. International exchange of criminal records

Ian Readhead QPM, Chief Executive, ACPO Criminal Records Office, gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Michael Ellis was called to the Chair.

Ian Readhead QPM, Chief Executive, ACPO Criminal Records Office, gave further oral evidence.

7. Police National Database

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Police National Database be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Chief Constable Paul Crowther OBE, British Transport Police, 20 February 2015.

criminal investigations be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Dr Alan

Billings, Police and Crime Commissioner for South Yorkshire, 20 February 2015.

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Tuesday 3 March 2015

Keith Vaz, in the Chair Ian Austin Michael Ellis Paul Flynn Tim Loughton Yasmin Qureshi David Winnick 1. Future programme

Chief Constable David Crompton, South Yorkshire Police, dated 10 February 2015 (Redacted).

Draft Report (Out-of-Court Disposals), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fourteenth Report of the Committee, HC 799.

4. Police Information Notices

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Police Information Notices be

reported to the House for publication on the internet: Letter from Kevin Hurley, Police and Crime Commissioner for Surrey, dated 26 February 2015.

Draft Report (Police Information Notices), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was amended and agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fifteenth Report of the Committee, HC 901.

5. Police bail

Ordered, that the following written evidence relating to Police bail be reported to the House

for publication on the internet: Kate Goold, Bindmans LLP; Paul Gambaccini; and Paul Gambaccini supplementary (PBA 01-03).