WHEN AND IF
●Name: WHEN AND IF
●Rig : SCHOONER
●Year: 1939
●Designer: JOHN ALDEN
●Builder: F. F .Pendleton-Maine USA
●Location: Albany, NY
●LOA: 24.40
●LOD: 19,30
●LWL: 14,30
●BMax: 4,60
●Depth: 2,90
●Displacement: 43
●Engine: Lugger 110 HP
●Equipments:
Rig Spars and Sails
Schooner rig, The main mast is hollow Douglas fir & the Foremast is hollow stika spruce Original main boom with bronze gooseneck fittings
Fore boom Original gaff
Original staysail boom
Bowsprit; new and 2 x galvanized steel bobstay Standing rigging new 2007
Running rigging new 2007
All sails new by Sperry in 2010 Infact they only have one full season of use . Area of the four lowers is 1,770 square feet.
– Marconi main – Gaff foresail – Staysail – Jib topsail – Blade (low cut) – Yankee – Fisherman
– Old working suit by Nathaniel Wilson On Deck layout, Equipment and Ground Tackle
WHEN AND IF has ample space on her laid and sprung teak deck for guests sitting in the self bailing cockpit, on the bridge deck, on cabin tops, etc. She has wide side decks and high bulwarks which provide an enormous sense of security at sea. The doghouse is accessed from the bridge deck.The accommodation hatch and ladder access the aft end of the main cabin, with coach roof over, There is a forward scuttle, then two opening hatches and a skylight hatch, plus numerous opening port lights in the cabin sides and the doghouse and several dorade vents. The bowsprit terminates at the forward Sampson post, windlass, anchor davit are to port where the large fisherman is stowed on deck; to starboard is the small fisherman. By the fore mast is the original halyard pin rail and the bell, the life raft and the gas bottles are abaft.The wash down outlet and hoses are by the main mast which has a pin rail surrounding. There are manual shut off valves (required by the Coast Guard) on the side decks. Bronze dorade (engine room) ventilators are on either side, forward, of the dog house. Aft of the helmsman’s seat is a boom gallows, while forward of the seat is the binnacle. Engine controls are mounted on the steering box. The main access to the spacious engine room is by a hatch in the bridge deck. It can also be accessed by the Dog house and the aft master cabin. Ground tackle consists of:
– Lofrans windlass (Titan model) with 400′ of high tensile chain & 3 8 volt Wetcell batteries – Double chain gypsies with single rope gypsy
– 1 x 140 lb fisherman on 200 ft ½ in chain (anchor re galvanized, and chain new in 2000) – 1 x 120 lb Fisherman on chain (chain sand blasted and re galvanized in 2000)
– 2 x Yachtsman anchors and 350 ft ½ in chain and 200 ft chain – 80 lb CQR anchor and 100 ft ½ in chain
– Stern anchor and 200 ft warp – Anchor davit
– Original bronze stanchions – Oak cheek blocks
– 2 x large Barient primary selftailing winches – Original Merriman running backstay winches – Merriman main sheet winch
– Massive bronze compression horse– Bronze horse for fore sail sheet– Bronze boom gallows – Bronze dorade vents over engine room
– 8 x deck prisms-Lewmar 46 selftailing winch on the main halyard Mechanical Electrical and Tankage
– Lugger 110 HP Diesel (2009) with about 2500 hours. Excellent conditions
– 25 inch feathering Prowell propeller (Prop shaft & coupling new in 1999) – Wheel (custom cast bronze wheel with name) and Edson worm gear – 12 V House and starting systems with dedicated batteries
– 32 V Windlass dedicated batteries, all charged via engine driven alternators – Electric / manual solenoid safety switch in galley
– Shore power 110 V – Large Inverter charger
– 4 x 4 D standard gel cell house batteries 24 V
– 1 24 volt cell standard 4D engine start battery WETCELL – Jabsco electrical fresh water pump for high pressure water system – Rule electric bilge pump (in engine room)
– Large bronze diaphragm manual pump – Pump for holding tank
– Rule pump for sump tank – Oberdorfer wash-down pump
– Hot water storage tank for engine heated water – 5 x stainless steel water tanks (1994) total 200 gallons – Sump tank
– 30 gallon black water holding tank – Grey water tank
– 2 x Diesel tanks; total 200 gallons recently renewed
– 2 x 20 lb gas bottles on deck with regulator-New electrical distribution panels Navigation Communication and Electronics
– Kelvin and Wilford O White steering compass – Radar
– Raymarine C80 GPS / plotter – Chelsea quartz chronometer – Chelsea barometer
– Standard Horizon VHF
-New Depth Finder & Speedmeter this spring 2015 – Hand held radio
– Sony CD player Safety
– 12 man Zodiac life raft – MOB light
– MOM system – P F Ds CG inspected – 2 Life rings
– 406 EPIRB deck mounted with hydrostatic release – 6 x Safety harnesses
– 23 Life jackets
– Double life line above bulwarks
– Netting for full length of side decks (not currently in place) – CO2 fire suppression system for engine room
– 4 x Large hand held fire extinguishers; doghouse, aft, saloon and fore cabins – Manual bilge pump (to port of main mast, on deck)
●Costruction and Accomodations: Construction: WHEN AND IF's original construction was immensely strong, verified by her survival after the 1990 wreck. Because she had maintained her shape, the rebuilders , the famous shipyard Gannon
& Benjamin ,were able to make patterns for the double-sawn frames from the corresponding frame on the starboard side rather than lofting the boat's lines full size. Her original construction was double planking (mahogany over mahogany and cedar, bedded in white-lead paste) over double-sawn frames, bronze fastenings throughout, on an oak backbone. She had bronze hanging knees, bronze sheet chainplates, bronze strapping, cast-bronze floors (under the copper water tanks), and an oversized shelf, as well as sheer clamp. Her keel bolts appear to be naval bronze; during the rebuild two were replaced and subsequently two more in 1998, all out of silicone bronze. During the rebuild, about 70% of the planking on the port side was replaced with African mahogany (khaya) over cedar, bedded in white lead. Seventeen full or partial sawn frames of black locust, bronze drifted together; the bronze hanging knees were either straightened or portions replaced, the-cast bronze floors were straightened and reinstalled. Portions of the deadwood aft, the fore keel, and the rudder were all replaced. A small portion of the deck was replaced along with the full length of the port bulwarks and rail cap. The engine was reconditioned, the water system and tanks removed and completely replaced with new components, as were all of the electrical systems, electronics, and batteries. All the standing and running rigging had been removed from the masts, while the hull was rebuilt, and the mast, booms, and gaffs were stripped and revarnished. Both the fore boom and the staysail boom have been replaced, including custom cast bronze hardware. The interior was redesigned to be more comfortable for cruising and chartering and all the mechanical, electrical and plumbing were designed to comply with modern standards.
All of the interior was refinished, along with all new cushions and mattresses.
Accomodations The doghouse with side windows and two portholes forward, which can only be accessed from the cockpit has short settee and longer settee berth with storage, chart table with drawers, navigation equipment, lockers, electrical panel and battery switches. The main access to accommodation below is via companionway hatch and steps down and below; the cabins are painted off white with cypress bulkheads and mahogany trim. Upholstery is blue and white striped with numerous cushions. The full beam master cabin aft has to port a double berth and to starboard a . pilot berth with settee. There are bureau, settee and mirror on the aft bulkhead, book cases and a large hanging locker with shelves. The hatch overhead and 4 x opening bronze ports give ventilation and light – additionally by kerosene lamp and electric lights. To port is a large head with double doors leading both to the corridor and the aft cabin. It has Wilcox manual WC, enclosed shower 12 gallon water heater, porcelain sinks and large locker under, medicine locker, linen lockers, vanity with mirror, deck prism for light, and ventilation through the accommodation hatch. Moving forward between the head compartment and the foul weather gear locker to starboard is the accommodation hallway ladder and hatch. The galley, athwart ships has stove and sinks - with large locker under to port with ice box and dish racks to starboard. There are lockers, bins, shelves and pots. A deck prism lights and there is ample ventilation from 7 opening ports. Equipment includes - Tasco 3 burner propane stove with oven on port side - Sea Frost engine driven mechanical refrigeration in SS ice box to starboard - Double SS sink has pressure fresh and manual salt water and manual pump to empty sinks In the saloon forward are single pilot berths (curtained ) and settees both sides, table with two leaves, leaded glass locker, numerous book cases, lockers and bins. The copper diesel heater (c 2002) is to port; a large butterfly skylight and opening portholes in the cabin trunk give ventilation and light. The saloon has both electrical and kerosene lamps. A corridor leads forward with bosun's locker and work bench (with complete engine service kit) to port and small head compartment with WC, sink and vanity with mirror. A small double berth cabin has hanging locker, numerous drawers and lockers as well as storage and book cases beneath. A hatch over the hallway and cabin provides ventilation and light.
The foc’s’le has a single berth to port and double berth to starboard, 2 hanging lockers, 2 lockers, numerous drawers and under berth storage (for lines), scuttle to deck, deck prism over each bunk; the foc’s'le is very nicely finished with linen white paint and mahogany joinery and can serve as a guest cabin if necessary. The windlass batteries are located under the berths and the cabin sole
●Description: When and If Formidabile schooner di John Alden,progetto # 669.Fu costruita per navigare intorno al mondo da FF Pendleton in Maine per il colonnello americano George Patton .Molto invelata ,considerevolmente più robusta della media delle barche del suo tempo e perfettamente attrezzata per l’altomare fu varata nel 1939 . Il nome sottintendeva “Ci navigherò quando e se (When and If) questa dannata guerra terminerà…….In realtà Patton non navigò mai molto sulla sua splendida goletta,perché morì in incidente stradale nel 1945. La barca rimase alla moglie Beatrice ed agli eredi fino agli anni ‘70 Poi divenne l’ammiraglia di una associazione velica . Nel 1990 durante una tempesta
autunnale nel Maine ruppe gli ormeggi e rimase alcuni giorni in balia di se stessa tra gli scogli della costa battuta dal mare.
Grazie alla possente struttura la barca non andò perduta e fu sottoposta ad una ricostruzione accurata presso il rinomato cantiere Gannon & Benjamin a Martha’s Vineyard .La barca tornò a navigare 4 anni dopo, perfetta come al giorno del suo varo. Zacboats è onorata di presentare in Europa questa eccellente imbarcazione. LOA: 24,50m LOD : 19,30m sul ponte B max:4,60m D: 44 Ton Con il suo facile e potente armo velico: Randa di maestra Marconi, randa di trinchetta aurica ,fiocco e trinchetta di moderate dimensioni, la barca è l’ideale per lunghe navigazioni veloci con ogni tempo, ed è un meraviglioso gioiello nei raduni di barche d’epoca
●Asking Price: SOLD
●History: Although General George Patton was to die his dream unrealised, the yacht was sailed and much enjoyed by his family until the 1970s when she was donated to the Landmark School near Boston Mass. There she was to become an important element of the sail training programme for dyslexic children. It was in 1990 that she broke loose from her mooring in a gale and wrecked. Although assessed a total loss by her insurers, she was successfully salvaged and taken by barge to Martha’s Vineyard. There she was painstakingly restored by Gannon & Benjamin one of the best yards in New England – to be re-launched in June 1994. Since then this fine schooner has been a familiar sight at East Coast classic yacht events, symbolising the survival of what had been thought to be a dying breed.This legendary schooner was built by F. F .Pendleron in 1938 and designed by Clifford Swaine of John Alden’s office.She is design # 669 and carries 1,770 square feet of sail in her four lowers.Her hull is double planked,with cedar inside and mahogany outside.The engine and sails are new.She has had a significant amount of work done and herewith are the OWNERS COMMENTShere is a summary of the work that I have done to the boat over the last two and a half years; all work was done with the finest materials and to very high yacht standards. As you know the first summer I used the boat in New England and then took her to upstate New York where we hauled her, built a custom building around her and spent the next year and a half going completely through her structure. It was quite obvious that her transom and deck were completely shot, so the first thing we did was to take very careful measurements of her hull for reference and then tear her apart, first her transom, horn timber, aft 1/3 of her hull planking and the aft deck and deck frame. We also removed all her deck houses and furniture in preparation for a complete deck replacement. We discovered that her transom at some point had been repaired and in the process had been shortened by about 10 inches, getting her transom shape back to original was a very complicated task, thank god we had made the measurements to the hull for reference. Once the design work was complete the hull started to go back together, we laminated all the major timber for extra strength using Angelique and locust timbers and arodux 500 glue. The aft 1/3 of the hull was re-planked with double Mahogany planks, and fastened with #24 , 4 inch bronze screws.
Along with a new double planked transom we also replaced the aft 3 frames again using lamination for strength. We also replaced all the floor timbers that sat on the horn timber with welded 316 stainless steel. With the hull section done we moved to the deck, All the original teak was removed and minor repairs were made to the forward deck framing, the aft deck framing along with all the cockpit framing was replaced with very high quality white oak and of course fastened with bronze hardware. With the deck framing finished we laid a new teak deck down to the original scantlings, fastened with bronze screws and caulked traditionally. With the decks complete we made repairs to the houses and put them back in place and of course all the deck hardware went back down with new bronze hardware. This was the jist of the restoration but we also invested another couple thousand hours doing the following work. Complete replacement of the cockpit, teak staving and caps, steam bent oak comings and a new teak wheel box; we also rebuilt the steering gear and added a beautiful teak rim to the bronze steering wheel. We did a major refastening below the waterline replacing thousands of screws with new #24, 4 or 5 inch screws at the same time we reefed and re-caulked all the single bottom planks. The rudder was removed and reworked then reinstalled with all new hardware, the prop shaft was removed and the stuffing box refastened, new bearing installed and all put back together with a nice 25 inch Luke feathering prop. We replaced all the rusty exhaust hardware with new hose and bronze fittings, at the same time we tidied up a lot of stuff in the engine room and gave it a new coat of grey paint, the general would be proud! With the onset of warm weather we completely stripped the hull, re-faired, re-caulked, replaced another half dozen planks, replaced the aft 17 feet of bulwark and rail caps, sanded and painted, easier said than done! While this was going on outside, in the storage shed we completely dismantled, stripped and varnished the masts booms and gaffs and spreaders, repairs were made as needed and all hardware was reinstalled with new. Also it goes without saying that we refinished all the hatches, houses, blocks and everything else saving as much original stuff as possible. At this time we re-launched and the boat stayed in the water for the winter while we replaced all the batteries, four 4 d for the house and new starting batteries as well. We also installed a new electrical panel and really cleaned up the wiring This spring we will replace all the plumbing, re-fair and paint the hull, bottom and top. Also on the list for this spring is all new life lines, fire extinguishers, a new engine room fire system.
When delivery is ready in the spring the When and If will be better than she has been in 50 years and ready for another 100 years of service.
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