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Question- 1: Why does the conjoined planet not give results of the node? A node gives the results of its sign lord, not vice versa.
A node gives the results of its star lord, not vice versa.
A node gives the results of the planet that aspects the node, not vice versa. A node gives the results of the planet with which it is conjoined, not vice versa?
When two planets are in conjunction, let us say Sun and Mars, they work for each other. In case of the nodes why this rule is not applicable?
Why does the conjoined planet not give results of the node? It may kindly be clarified.
Answer- 1
Nodes do not aspect any planet or any house since they are only the sensitive and powerful intersecting points in the pathway of Sun and Moon and they are not having any physical body which can be seen through a telescope as we can see all the other planets. This is the reason why they are called shadowy planets.
- K.P. Kuppu Ganapathi: Guidelines for Preparing and Judging a Horary Chart .. (KPE-zine Feb 2007)
None of the astrological treatises ascribed to any of the Rishis gives aspects to Rahu and Ketu. . . . I have found that trying to use planetary aspects for Rahu and Ketu will be misleading and a source of confusion when making
predictions.
- Ernst Wilhelm: Vault of the Heavens: Treatise on Vedic Astrology, Kala Occult Publishers, 2001, p 196
The effects of the nodes in conjunction or in aspect by a planet is more or less the same; though the conjunctions are much more powerful than aspects.
Question- 2: Nodes’ Conjunction with Planets in Transit
The nodes do not aspect any planet or cusp. That is OK. But they can come in to conjunction with any planet during transit. The question is on this conjunction. Suppose Mars conjoins. It is accepted fact that Rahu gives result of Mars and it is stronger than Mars. But what debar Mars to give results of Rahu, Please?
Answer- 2
Whether in natal or transit, the same reason for Rahu of not throwing aspects for not being a substantial heavenly observable body, shape, mass or color like the other planets debars the conjoined Mars to give the results of Rahu. It’s to follow the following KP fundamental rule rather than sticking to Rahu, which is shadowy in nature and does not have clear relationships like the other planets:
The source is indicated by the transiting planet and what will happen is shown by the lord of constellation; whether it will materialize or not, whether it is favorable or not is indicated by the sub-lord according to the houses signified by the sub-lord.
- KP Reader V, 1971, p 153/ New Edition p 161 (under Systematic Procedure to Adopt K.P. Method for Transit Results)
Question-3: Karaka and Signification of Rahu
1) Why Rahu is considered as a strong karaka for jail in KP rules although it is a node? In every case of imprisonment great importance is given to Rahu..
2) I have seen many cases in which it is found that Mars is spoiled due to aspect of Rahu or with conjunction of Rahu.
3) Rahu or Ketu firstly gives the result of which planet: (a) the planet which conjoined with the node or (b) the planet aspecting node ?
Question & Answer
Mr TinWin answers the questions of readers
Jan 2013 KP‐Ezine 34 Answer- 3:
1. As Rahu can send a native to jail and Rahu is also karaka for 12th house, ruler of imprisonment, Rahu is considered
as a chief karaka for imprisonment to be the 12th CSL. However, in KP the signification of relevant houses for an event
under consideration is a deciding factor for an event to be promised and happen, and the Karaka can play only a supportive role, e.g. Rahu alone as the 12th CSL can't send a native to jail unless it signifies the required houses of 2,
3, 8 or 12 for imprisonment. Adversely, one may be sent to jail without having Rahu as the 12th CSL. (A Study of 100 Prisoner Charts, KPE-zine March 2008 issue)
2. In KP, when Rahu is in conjunction with Mars or Rahu is aspected by Mars, the Rahu is to give the results of Mars, not vice versa since Rahu does not throw aspect on any planet or house.
3. Theoretically Rahu or Ketu is supposed firstly to give the results of planet which is conjoined with Rahu or Ketu since conjunctions are stronger than aspects, in the KP Reader VI, p 312 or as given under.
1) Rahu or Kethu indicates the results of planet which it is conjoined; 2) If no planet in conjunction, the results of planets aspecting it;
3) If neither conjoined nor aspected, the results of the constellation in which it is deposited; 4) Lastly the result of the sign in which it is deposited.
- KP Reader III, 1971, p 123/ New Edition, p 130
However, practically in the KP Readers, for the signification of Rahu/Ketu, the house occupied by them, planets in conjunction and aspect with them, their star lord, and sign lord are found considered depending on relevance to the matter under consideration without giving much attention to the order of priority . (Rahu/Ketu Rules in KP (KP E-Zine May 2007 issue)