SHORT SET METHOD IS NOT A SARGING METHOD. It is a method that shakes girls loose, out of difficult situations to sarge them in.
My friends and I have found that you can't consistently run long sets with good results, in bars or clubs with 'regulars'.. They are not accustomed to people coming in and taking over their group.
Instead, just go up, say a quick funny/playful thing, and leave.. do this
several times, until the girls come back and approach you.. otherwise they get uncomfortable.. this way is much better, and the only way that I know of to do clubs with regulars.
You will find that if you go around the venue just MINGLING like this, by the end of the night if you've initiated 30 girls, at least 5 will come back to you who are interested, and make it very easy to extract from the club.
This is also VERY useful for *LOUD* clubs, where long sets are not feasible.
In fact, its the ONLY way that we've figured out to sarge the super-elite
"Guvernment" club in Toronto (where the BIG BOYS go out to play, against the HOTTEST targets.. http://www.theguvernment.com/ )
Twentysix pulled his hot new GF from this club, using this method. Him and Papa went and high-fived EVERYONE in the massive club like 5 times each for four straight hours, until they had girls coming up to them like "high-5 guys!
you guys rock!".. And they had girls grabbing them and making out with them and dancing around them like they were the most money guys in the club. Twentysix laid that girl, and posted about it in his LR: taking off a bra report.
-thumb wrestling (cheat to win and yell that you beat her, leave) -whoa whoa whoa.. watch out!! (leave)
-whoa whoa whoa.. watch out girl this shit ain't for free! At least one foot of space at all times.. (then hug, leave)
-SPIN MANEUVRE / twirl (leave)
-block a high-traffic area unintentionally, say 'no passing without the password.. what's the password?' (leave)
-elbow/hip bumping (leave)
-mini cold reads "whoa check out this girl.. she is fiesty" (leave)
-do girls think that scoobie doo is a sexy dog? what about clifford, the big red dog? do you think that garfield is a sexy cat? what about odie? is curious george a sexy monkey? (leave)
-washroom security! (leave)
-pull toques over eyes, pull accessories, snap bra straps (leave) -ask for I.D. (leave)
-punching match/mercy fight (leave) -hot hands / slaps (leave)
-'you guys are so cute! powerpuff girls! I'm going to adopt you! (leave) -finish any of these with "you're my new girlfriend" and walk away
OR, just make an offhanded comment:
-dude, my buddy was an INCH away from getting recruited to Kuwait for army-duty.. HOLY SHIT.. (leave)
-dude, did you see x-amazing thing??? holy fuck! (leave)
You can also STACK a few of these, and then leave. Most often I stack a few and then leave.
Then, when the chicks come re-initiate you, run standard MM, or just extract.
So you basically run 30 second sets, over and over and LEAVE while they still like you and want more.. this is similar to a NEG, because unlike every other guy, you leave even though they're showing IOIs..
Then they'll eventually come to you.. this is much easier than running standard MM in bars with regulars, because it makes them uncomfortable when you linger..
Also, at the end of the bar, situate yourself in a high-traffic area, like in front of the washroom or something, so that way the chicks will have to get by you, and you can run your 30 second sets on them as well.. in short order, you have goofed on everyone in the bar, and you are the shit.
This method is field tested to shit, and we have had many successful sarges using it. Extractions, new GFs, etc etc..
It is playful and fun. Less imposing than STANDARD LONG SET method. Bear in mind we are also College aged guys. So no comments that this isn't
sophisticated enough, because it works well for us. I DO think it could for anyone, but I don't know since I haven't walked in other people's shoes.
Use it depending on the situation. It is best for low-key venues with regulars, or for super-loud venues where long sets are difficult due to excessive music volume.
Am I allowed to post routines without debate on whether or not routine-based-PU is good or not? hmmm.... :)
I wrote out a list of routines for the MM students a while back. Here it is for anyone who is interested in seeing it.
-who lies more, guys or girls?
-party over here?
-operation mayhem cavemanning "you're my new best friend"
-energy twirl -are you guys rich?
-short-set method
-Major Mark and Steve Piccus trying to bend spoons story
-i have to pee opener (it feels funny when I push in here, but I have a super bladder)
-stuffed toys opener (talk about stuffed toys) -garvellous' toy rules opener
-superman vs batman vs jesus toys opener (who would win)
-Chinese mullet, Gremelin car with phat stereo opener (for sets with guys) -can we be friends? when we were kids, we just said "let's be friends"
-my hair grows when i blow on my thumb
COCKY FUNNY:
-C&F Frames: eternal love / marriage ring swap / groupies / conspiracy -gay cockblock routine
-make her lapdance and you'll pay her, then kiss her -Juggler GF test
-finger swirl
-high5 wingman "they like us"
-ZAN "you're my new GF"
-bring 2 bottles of champagne, one to drink, the other to pour all over me -lipstick test
-Badboy 'are you rich.. cable... can you cook?'
-favourite colour.. blue? WOW, I have a favourite colour too.. its RED..
-guess my sign.. Wow that's amazing.... "did I get it" .. NO.. :) -Rick H eye contact routine
-that's the most romantic thing that anyone has ever said to me (to any boring statement)
-sexual predator routine, with "I'm scared" and silly scared face -Kooper I.D. the girls
-say I...now We.... now Todd... nowDid.... faster.. faster.. dorks..
RAPPORT ROUTINES:
-time distortion "6 months locked in room together, best friends, we know eachother, got past problems"
-childhood regressions / parachute routine -spinning room
-goofball parents stories -sister stories "I miss my sister"
-ant farm -evolution script
-human instruction book -stuff toys
-my friend garvellous in toy convention "my toy rules"
-common insecurities
TD on Rapport:
After I convey value, I move to building rapport.. This is like a coal-train that has to be fueled.. I pump them more and more with rapport..
However, unlike conveying higher-value, I try to EASE her into it. This results in not coming off as one of those guys who wants to be "deep" *all the time*, and disarms any thoughts that she has that I'm messing with her, since the convo builds and builds.. It's very natural that way, and I also enjoy it more myself.
Initiate playful kino, non-stop, so that the kino boundary is SET as NORMAL. Normalize the kino, or even play the kiss-game variation early in the C&F phase of the sarge (not relating to this post, as this is the earlier stuff).
-upbeat stories (friends / cute anecdotes / feel good stories / jokes / humour / show that you can be easy going)
-fun reads such as Ring Finger pattern, if done more as a routine than a nuclear pattern (RF pattern can also be a nuclear bomb used in heavy rapport, if done don-juanish, not just out of fun-interest)
-PREV (pre-researched EV, triusms, etc.. see separate post)
-rather than E.V., I study the female psyche, and use the 'truisms' idea to discuss ideas that convey that I am the perfect man.. I am not like other guys, and convey that the problems that they had in past relationships won't happen with me, through the 'truisms' discussion
-Instant connection pattern / transition to Love vs. Attraction pattern
-STACK and associate types of connections.. create massive yes-ladder, and then get her saying 'yes, yes, yes' to all your comments about connections, until you can draw the similarity between PHYSICAL and EMOTIONAL connections
-REFRAME physical connections as simply a DIFFERENT brand of connection, but still a
*LEGITIMATE* connection.
-natural woman pattern
-implicit idea that you and her are *ON* comes across, playful kino escalates -SEDUCE.