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OB  Hospitalist-­‐  Coding  Comments  to  ACOG  Committee  on  Coding  and  Nomenclature    

1) L&D  Triage.    Many  OB  Hospitalist  programs  have  the  OB  Hospitalist  do  the   full  EMTALA  examination  or  the  exam  after  initial  nurse  triage.    Some  of   these  patients  are  in  labor  and  are  admitted  as  such.    Others  have  various   medical  conditions  some  of  which  are  partially  obstetric.    There  are  many   questions  on  how  to  bill  for  these  things  to  allow  appropriate  

reimbursement.  

a. Eventual  L&D  admissions  

i. Admitted  to  private  OB  service  physician  

1. If  a  patient  shows  up  to  the  ED  and  an  evaluation  is   made  by  an  ED  physician  and  then  transferred  to  L&D   for  labor.    Can  the  ED  physician  bill  for  the  visit?    If  a   patient  presents  to  L&D  and  an  OB  Hospitalist  does  a   workup  can  the  Hospitalist  bill  for  the  evaluation?    If  the   ED  physician  can  bill  it  would  follow  that  the  OB  

Hospitalist  could  be  reimbursed  for  an  evaluation.    

The  ED  physician  cannot  bill  for  that  visit  is  my  understanding.    Hence  the   reason  every  pregnant  woman  is  sent  to  L&D  triage  for  evaluation.    The   L&D  hospitalist  can  bill  if  she  goes  home.    Then  it  is  billed  as  an  

outpatient  visit  (and  since  the  hospitalist  is  covering,  that  is  an  

established  patient)  unless  the  hospital  has  the  L&D  triage  certified  as  an   ER  (most  hospitals  don’t  because  it  takes  a  lot  of  extra  manpower  and   equipment  to  be  a  certified  ER).  

   

ii. Admitted  to  OB  Hospitalist  service.    Can  the  OB  Hospitalist  bill   for  the  admission  and  subsequent  hospital  care?      When  would   this  be  included  in  global  OB  care  vs.  admission,  hospital  E&M   and  then  delivery?  

 

If  they  are  covering  for  a  physician  who  performs  deliveries,  then   arrangements  should  be  made  with  the  practice  for  reimbursement  of   services.    If  they  are  covering  for  a  practice  that  does  not  do  deliveries   (we  have  a  few  here  in  Indy  who  just  do  antenatal  care  and  the  6  week   visit)  then  they  bill  for  the  delivery  and  inpatient  postpartum  care  code   (59410  and  59515  for  vaginal  and  C/S).  

 

iii. The  workup  is  done  at  times  for  patients  that  present  in  early   labor.    One  laborist  spends  45  minutes  working  up  these   patients.    She  would  like  to  code  and  bill  for  this  separate  from   the  global  charge,  which  is  charged  by  the  patient’s  primary   physician.    

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She  can  bill  this  as  an  outpatient  E&M  plus  NST  unless  the  patient  is   admitted.    If  admitted,  should  work  out  a  deal  with  the  covering   physician.  

 

b. OB  Hospitalist  manages  the  total  outpatient  episode  of  care  and  the   patient  is  discharged  without  admission.  

i. False  labor,  etc.      Can  this  be  billed  as  an  E&M  code?  

ii. Asthma  attack  requiring  treatment  and  change  in  medications,   etc.    Can  this  be  billed  as  an  E&M  code?  

 

If  not  admitted,  outpatient  E&M.    The  ICD-­‐9  codes  just  help  to  speed   reimbursement  along.  

 

c. Transfer  to  ED  

i. Patient  worked  up  in  L&D  with  eventual  transfer  to  the  ED  for   workup  of  non-­‐OB  condition.    Can  this  be  billed  separately   from  the  ED  physician?    Which  codes  can  be  used?  

1. Coexisting  OB-­‐non  OB  issue   2. OB  issue  ruled  out  

 

I  would  think  it  would  be  an  outpatient  code  again—just  like  in  the  office.    

d. Transfer  to  another  service.    Which  codes  should  be  used?   i. Example:  patient  transferred  to  surgery  service  for  an  

appendectomy.    

See  above.    

e. Transfer  to  another  unit  but  managed  by  the  OB  hospitalist  with   consult  to  another  service.  

i. Example:    Surgery  service  plans  to  do  an  appendectomy  but   wants  the  OB  hospitalist  to  manage  the  patient’s  care  

 

If  admitted  to  the  hospitalist,  the  hospitalist  bills  the  appropriate   inpatient  admission  code,  consults  the  general  surgery  service  and   continues  inpatient  care.    Care  may  be  denied  because  the  appy  carries  a   global  period  and  the  hospitalist  needs  to  use  the  ICD-­‐9  codes  that  will   say  the  care  was  for  pregnancy  issues—likely  the  V  codes  since  no   pregnancy  issue  actually  exists.    However,  most  surgeons  would  admit   and  then  consult  the  hospitalist  and  then  the  hospitalist  bills  the  initial   consult  code  and  then  subsequent  hospital  care  codes.  

 

2) L&D  Procedures   a. Ultrasounds  

i. Some  programs  allow  nursing  to  do  some  sonograms.    Others   only  allow  radiology  to  provide  these  services.    Most  allow  the  

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OB  hospitalist  to  do  some  L&D  sonograms.    The  sonograms  are   to  determine  fetal  position,  placenta  localization,  AFI,  

biophysical  profile,  growth  scans,  etc.    How  does  the   Hospitalist  bill  in  each  of  these  scenarios?  

 

The  hospitalist  can  bill  for  the  professional  component  (hospital  owned   equipment  I’m  assuming),  but  must  prepare  a  written  report  and   documentation  AND  the  hospital  radiologist  cannot  bill  for  the  

professional  component.    This  should  be  arranged  through  the  hospital.     No  value  can  be  given  for  a  nurse  US  with  a  nurse  interpretation  of   images.    Thus  the  physician  must  review  all  the  images  and  prepare  the   report.    More  than  most  hospitalists  want  to  cover  since  they  would  now   be  liable  for  any  misinformation  or  missed  diagnoses.  

 

b. Monitor  FHR  

i. Read  NST-­‐  the  Hospitalist  would  charge  for  the  interpretation   fee.  

 

Unless  the  patient  is  in  labor—then  it  is  included.    Only  bill  this  if  the   patient  is  an  antepartum  care  (such  as  PPROM,  PTL,  etc.)  or  evaluating   for  labor.    If  actually  in  labor,  considered  part  of  the  care.  

 

ii. Following  a  patient  in  labor  and  responding  to  nursing  or   physician  requests  to  evaluate  a  Category  2  or  3  tracing.    There   does  not  seem  to  be  a  way  to  bill  for  these  services  that  can   take  from  a  few  seconds  to  several  hours  of  OB  Hospitalist   presence.  

 

Correct.    All  included  in  the  global  payment  for  labor.        

c. Amniocentesis,  version,  etc.  

i. Most  OB  hospitalists  bill  for  these  procedures  but  there  is  some   concern  that  the  services  won’t  be  recognized  if  the  patient  is   admitted  when  the  procedure  is  done  and  the  procedure  is   considered  under  global  care,  or  that  the  procedure  is  

performed  by  a  physician  with  similar  training  as  the  attending   so  the  procedure  cannot  be  billed  separately.    This  concern  is   expressed  below  in  3).  

 

I  haven’t  ever  heard  of  this  happening.    Is  this  theory  or  reality?   3) Consultations  

a. Family  practice  physicians  with  OB  privileges,  and  nurse  midwives.   i. Most  OB  Hospitalists  feel  they  can  bill  for  services  and  

consultations  when  a  Family  Practice  physician  requests  it.     Some  insurance  companies  may  deny  the  OB  Hospitalist’s   services  in  this  situation.  

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Should  be  able  to  bill  for  it  and  if  they  are  denied,  should  refile  and   petition  state  insurance  commissioner  if  it  is  habitual.    OB  has  higher   level  of  expertise.  

 

b. OB  Physicians  (Same  level  of  care).  

i. Most  OB  Hospitalists  feel  that  they  cannot  bill  for  services   when  asked  to  see  a  patient  by  another  OB.    This  would  be  for   services  that  the  OB  may  not  provide  but  would  be  considered   in  the  scope  of  practice.    An  example  would  be  management  of   an  eclamptic  seizure.  

 

Correct.    Included  in  payment  for  labor.        

c. Procedures  done  per  request  of  nursing  or  OB  Hospitalist  acts  in  an   emergency  setting  without  an  official  consult  being  made  prior  to   action.    How  are  these  coded  and  how  can  the  OB  Hospitalist  bill  for   these  emergency  services.  

 

No  procedures  can  be  done  at  the  request  of  nursing.    Ever.    If  an   emergency  occurs  and  the  admitting  physician  wants  to  ask  the   hospitalist  to  cover  (e.g.,  emergency  C/S),  then  the  hospitalist  can  bill   delivery  only  codes  or  the  OB  can  bill  global  and  give  part  to  the   hospitalist.  

 

4) Global  Billing  

a. Most  insurance  companies  will  pay  for  global  OB  and  consider  almost   everything  from  admission  until  postpartum  discharge  as  part  of  the   global  fee.    When  the  OB  Hospitalist  provides  some  or  all  of  the  care   there  are  very  few  options  for  billing  for  services  or  division  of   services.  

i. One  physician  stated  that  if  she  does  the  delivery  BCBS  pays   $1000  to  the  patient’s  physician  for  prenatal  care.    The   company  pays  the  hospitalist  $1000  for  the  delivery.    If  the   private  physician  bills  for  the  prenatal  care  and  delivery  then   the  company  pays  $3000.  

 

This  is  the  classic  example  of  working  with  the  practices  in  town  to   negotiate  a  fair  fee  for  service  and  then  the  practice  pays  the  physician   for  coverage.    I’m  not  sure  what  Stark  laws  exist  for  kickbacks  to  the   hospital—that’s  for  legal.    If  a  physician  covers  for  another  physician   from  another  practice  then  the  practices  work  out  a  fair  reimbursement.    

ii. Many  physicians  feel  that  antenatal  care  is  not  reimbursed   appropriately  and  that  “easy”  labor  and  deliveries  make  up   partially  for  this.    The  physicians  don’t  want  to  give  up  the  

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delivery  fee,  or  divide  it  with  other  providers  who  care  for  the   patient  during  labor.  

 

A  great  topic  for  discussion  at  the  local  hospital  OB  committee.    

5) Reciprocal  Billing  

a. Many  OB  Hospitalist  programs  get  around  many  of  the  billing  issues   by  doing  reciprocal  billing.    There  are  two  ways  this  is  done.    In  both   for  the  attending  physician  does  global  OB  billing.  

i. Fee  per  patient  

1. A  fee  is  billed  to  the  attending  physician  by  the  OB   Hospitalist  to  manage:  

a. Labor  (ex.  $350)  

b. Manage  Labor,  Delivery,  Hospitalized  post   partum  (ex.  $500)  

2. Fee  billed  to  the  attending  physician  per  unit  of   coverage  (usually  monthly).  

a. Busy  physicians  are  billed  for  example  $1000  per   month.  

b. Physician  with  few  deliveries  are  billed  for   example  $100  per  month.  

b. None  of  the  programs  sharing  information  said  they  made  money   from  reciprocal  billing.    They  all  depended  on  covering  the  cost   overrun  of  the  program  with  using  other    

hospital  funds.    

6) Differences  between  OB  and  OB  Hospitalist  

a. The  OB  is  not  expected  to  stay  in  house  for  the  entire  labor.    The   exception  would  be  for  a  TOLAC.    Even  then  the  reimbursement  is  not   considered  work  appropriate  for  the  time.    If  the  labor  is  monitored   for  any  labor  should  the  laborist  be  able  to  bill  for  in  house  monitoring   of  the  labor?    The  laborist  is  expected  to  be  able  to  respond  within   seconds  where  the  OB  is  expected  to  respond  in  20-­‐30  minutes.    

I  think  this  is  included  in  the  payment  for  labor  and  delivery.    If  the  

hospital  wants  an  OB  doctor  onsite,  24/7,  the  hospital  should  be  prepared   to  pay  for  that.  

 

b. If  the  OB  Hospitalist  develops  skills  criteria  that  are  above  the  usual   skills  expected  of  the  general  OB  should  the  hospitalist  be  able  to  bill   for  the  services.    An  example  is  management  of  an  eclamptic  seizure   or  DIC.    These  are  in  the  scope  of  practice  for  a  general  OB  but  are   often  managed  at  least  in  consultation  by  a  different  specialist.    

Unfortunately,  there  is  no  hospitalist  fellowship  like  there  is  an  ICU   fellowship.    Thus,  there  is  no  difference  between  this  and  the  generalist  

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who  becomes  really  good  at  laparoscopy—she  gets  paid  the  same  as   everyone  else  for  the  same  service.  

 

7) Differences  between  the  Medical  Hospitalist  and  the  OB/Gyn  Hospitalist.   a. The  medical  hospitalist  does  not  do  an  ED  evaluation.    The  medicine  

patient  is  admitted  through  the  ED  or  a  private  physician.    There  is   almost  never  a  direct  admission  to  the  medicine  hospitalist  service   without  a  prior  workup.  

b. The  OB  Hospitalist  is  often  called  upon  to  evaluate  patients  without   access  to  prior  medical  records  or  a  recent  examination  based  on  the   admission  complaint.  

c. The  OB  Hospitalist  often  provides  her  services  during  an  episode  of   global  billing.    The  medical  hospitalist  services  are  separate  from   global  billing.  

d. The  OB/Gyn  Hospitalist  does  a  lot  of  outpatient  care  as  well  as  

outpatient  care  with  change  to  inpatient  care  during  the  same  episode   of  care.      The  medical  hospitalist  almost  always  only  takes  care  of   hospitalized  patients.  

e. The  Ob/Gyn  Hospitalist  needs  a  way  to  bill  for  these  services.  There  is   no  analogous  service  for  medical  hospitalists.  

 

Submitted  for  the  Society  of  OB/Gyn  Hospitalists   11/26/11  

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