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Rip Van Winkle looks at
Multiparticle Phase Shift Analysis
PTLIU Laboratory for Community Grids PTLIU Laboratory for Community Grids
Geoffrey Fox Geoffrey Fox
Computer Science, Informatics, Physics Computer Science, Informatics, Physics Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47404 Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47404
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0X0
0X 0X
0X0 -t
200 GeV hp E260
E350
“infinite” Progress in Jets but not so much in understanding low pT
hadron-hadron collisions
When I left ……..
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Apologies
Apologies
For errors and for not giving enough creditFor errors and for not giving enough credit
I have not studied since area of science for 22 years and I have not studied since area of science for 22 years and even when I worked full time in high energy physics, I even when I worked full time in high energy physics, I
studied production amplitudes and not partial wave studied production amplitudes and not partial wave
analysis analysis
I read many papers which suggested that open issues of I read many papers which suggested that open issues of past are still open and many of these could impact
past are still open and many of these could impact PWA
PWA
I haven’t even adjusted to change in names of particles I haven’t even adjusted to change in names of particles …..
…..
Think of me as a rather inaccurate conscience from the Think of me as a rather inaccurate conscience from the past
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Issues in Partial Wave Analysis
Issues in Partial Wave Analysis
Goal:Goal: Extract clear evidence for resonances; determine Extract clear evidence for resonances; determine masses, widths and their decay modes; compare with masses, widths and their decay modes; compare with
theoretical models; especially in areas that extend theoretical models; especially in areas that extend understanding of quark model (exotics, glueballs) understanding of quark model (exotics, glueballs) Approach:Approach:
– ee++ e e-- : very clean but limited statistics and sensitivity to : very clean but limited statistics and sensitivity to
structure (not all mesons/baryons of interest can be structure (not all mesons/baryons of interest can be
produced in reactions that can be detected and analysed) produced in reactions that can be detected and analysed) – Hadron-hadronHadron-hadron and and photon-hadron photon-hadron (low p(low pTT): ):
potentially (but not so far in practice) very high potentially (but not so far in practice) very high
statistics but substantial obfuscatory effects that could statistics but substantial obfuscatory effects that could
(in some cases) be impractical to disentangle (final state (in some cases) be impractical to disentangle (final state
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Hadron(Photon)-Hadron Reactions
Hadron(Photon)-Hadron Reactions
2 2: Obviously very clean but limited to a few obvious reactions such as γ N π N, π N π N etc.
– Analyses here are with good enough statistics largely
uncontroversial at partial wave analysis level. Interpretation in terms of resonances may be impossible due to small couplings etc.
2 3 or more: π N π π N, p p annihilation etc. where full final state partial wave analyzed
– Large increase in degrees of freedom
– Effective ways of dealing with 3 particle states usually require resonance assumptions which have intrinsic uncertainties
– Some effects (like π exchange) not studied in π N π N
2 (state to be analyzed) plus one or more other particles – in particular peripheral production of states to be analyzed
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Some Truths I
Some Truths I
Amplitudes exhibit many features for which there is no clear formalism that expresses in an integrated fashion Analytic Structure as in S matrix with poles and cuts
– Poles correspond to particles and resonances
– Cuts to multiple exchanges (box and more complex diagrams) – Need to look at all channels to get full analytic structure
Unitarity as a well understood (but difficult in multi-particle case to implement) constraint in every direct sub-channel
– Constraint only strong at low channel energy when one or a few possible intermediate states
s t
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Direct Channel Constraints
Direct Channel Constraints
Impose unitarity in s for Impose unitarity in s for 2 particle PWA
2 particle PWA
s
s123
1
2
3
s12 s23
s13
Impose unitarity in Impose unitarity in ss 12
12
s
s1313 s s2323 for 3 particle for 3 particle PWA
PWA
This is “final state This is “final state interactions”
interactions” Unitarity in Unitarity in ss
123
123 not a not a
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Some RVW Truths II
Some RVW Truths II
Spin FormalismSpin Formalism well understood both for full, decay, well understood both for full, decay, and
and ReggeRegge exchange amplitudes exchange amplitudes
– Extremely complexExtremely complex
Analytic structureAnalytic structure of amplitudes well understood for t- of amplitudes well understood for t-channel (Jackson-Gottfried), s-t-channel frame helicity channel (Jackson-Gottfried), s-channel frame helicity
and transversity amplitudes and transversity amplitudes
– Transversity amplitudes have nice selection rules and Transversity amplitudes have nice selection rules and invariance under rotations
invariance under rotations
– But poor analyticity structureBut poor analyticity structure
s-channel frames-channel frame has particularly good analyticity and has particularly good analyticity and well understood “zero” structure at t=0
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Some RVW Truths III
Some RVW Truths III
t(u)-channel exchanges are “classically” the forces that t(u)-channel exchanges are “classically” the forces that create the s-channel particles
create the s-channel particles
Thus it is not trivially “wrong” that same effect (e.g. Thus it is not trivially “wrong” that same effect (e.g. diffractively produced A
diffractively produced A11) can be “explained from ) can be “explained from direct or cross channel point of view
direct or cross channel point of view
Veneziano model illustrates this in a fashion that is not Veneziano model illustrates this in a fashion that is not quantitatively useful
quantitatively useful
t
1
2
3
4 u
1
2
4
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Peripheral Production
Peripheral Production
Choose cases where peripheral production strong to Choose cases where peripheral production strong to avoid larger backgrounds than necessary (inevitable) avoid larger backgrounds than necessary (inevitable)
Internal Exchanges
1
2
3
s12 s23
s13
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Backgrounds I
Backgrounds I
Many Backgrounds such as “false peripheral signal” Many Backgrounds such as “false peripheral signal”
Internal Exchanges
1
2
3
Another
Exchange Of course if original “production
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Multiperipheral Diagrams
Multiperipheral Diagrams
As in Deck modelAs in Deck model1
2
3
Another Exchange
Production Exchange
π π
π π
π
p p
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Backgrounds II
Backgrounds II
Rescattering in lots of channelsRescattering in lots of channelsInternal Exchanges
1
2
3
Production Exchange
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Some RVW Truths IV
Some RVW Truths IV
Quark ModelQuark Model and and QCDQCD can give useful predictions as to both can give useful predictions as to both
particle spectra and branching ratios particle spectra and branching ratios
Selection rules are always good including those reflecting Selection rules are always good including those reflecting
conservation of quark content conservation of quark content
Regge Regge theory has a few spectacular successes in describing high theory has a few spectacular successes in describing high
energy energy scattering energy energy scattering
– Linear Linear and and AA22 exchange degenerate trajectories with exchange degenerate trajectories with =0=0 dip for dip for and spin and spin flip nucleon coupling
flip nucleon coupling
– PomeronPomeron and and exchange are only phenomenologically understood exchange are only phenomenologically understood
– Details like polarization not understoodDetails like polarization not understood – Absorption Absorption (cuts) not convincing(cuts) not convincing
Difficult to believe results sensitive to uncertainties in these Difficult to believe results sensitive to uncertainties in these
“partial” theories “partial” theories
– Some exchanges are known to be big or small and this is always seenSome exchanges are known to be big or small and this is always seen
– Small high energy amplitude (e.g. backward Small high energy amplitude (e.g. backward scattering) must translate to scattering) must translate to (amplitude) cancellation at low
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Partial Wave Analysis Formalism
Partial Wave Analysis Formalism
Can use Density Matrix or Amplitude Can use Density Matrix or Amplitude– Amplitude enforces rank and positivity conditions on Amplitude enforces rank and positivity conditions on density matrix
density matrix
– Amplitude has in principle at least well defined Amplitude has in principle at least well defined analyticity properties
analyticity properties
Factorization (Regge exchange) suggests low rank but Factorization (Regge exchange) suggests low rank but we know this fails for
we know this fails for exchange due to conspirator exchange due to conspirator
1
2
3
Reggeon Exchange
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Amplitudes?
Amplitudes?
Can think in terms of Can think in terms of Beam + ReggeonBeam + Reggeon 1 + 2 + 3 amplitudes but this already shows these are not “simple” amplitudes
– Amplitudes depend on t ( massAmplitudes depend on t ( mass22 of Reggeon) and helicities of of Reggeon) and helicities of Beam, 1 2 and 3.
Beam, 1 2 and 3.
– Multiple exchanges and cuts also increase number of amplitudes Multiple exchanges and cuts also increase number of amplitudes
(even though not much quantitative evidence for them)
(even though not much quantitative evidence for them)
Safest to use amplitude model for cases where exchanges are Safest to use amplitude model for cases where exchanges are strong
strong
and exchange degenerate and exchange degenerate AA22 f f22 families are best families are best
– PomeronPomeron probably OK but we don’t understand as well probably OK but we don’t understand as well
with adjustment for conspirator (different naturality but with adjustment for conspirator (different naturality but structure determined at t=0)
structure determined at t=0)
– For example For example BB11 exchange ( exchange ( exchange degenerate partner) isn’t exchange degenerate partner) isn’t
very good
very good
Will photon beams prove harder as two helicities unless Will photon beams prove harder as two helicities unless excellent polarization data?
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Factorization Useful?
Factorization Useful?
In days gone by, we got essentially identical dynamics In days gone by, we got essentially identical dynamics from
from π- p
π0 n ; π- p
π0 inclusive ; π- p
π0 plusany neutral
So at least in cases where clear Reggeon exchange involved, doesn’t really matter if “target vertex” reaction clean
1
2
3
Production Exchange
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Conspiracy
Problems with double spin flip amplitudesProblems with double spin flip amplitudes
Interesting to compare with Interesting to compare with production at target production at target vertexas
vertexas p p does not vanish at t=0 does not vanish at t=0
p n
OK with helicity 0 but naïve
factorizable exchange vanishes when helicity 1 – not seen
experimentally
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Fitting the Data I
Fitting the Data I
Assume Assume unlimitedunlimited computer time, disk space and computer time, disk space and network bandwidth
network bandwidth
– At least no significant constraints from these issuesAt least no significant constraints from these issues
Not clear to me whatNot clear to me what fitting fitting techniques used techniques used
– Typically Physics ahead of Computer Science in area of multi-Typically Physics ahead of Computer Science in area of multi-parameter fitting
parameter fitting
– Maybe “unlimited computer time” and better management of Maybe “unlimited computer time” and better management of results could lead to new approaches such as:
results could lead to new approaches such as:
““Ensemble Fitting techniques” (e.g. genetic algorithms) Ensemble Fitting techniques” (e.g. genetic algorithms) which explore parameter space more completely than
which explore parameter space more completely than
traditional (Taylor expansion) least squares methods
traditional (Taylor expansion) least squares methods – Probably not particularly to find “new solutions” but rather to Probably not particularly to find “new solutions” but rather to
better depict error band of a given “solution” better depict error band of a given “solution”
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Fitting the Data II
Fitting the Data II
Data miningData mining– Develop a suite of analysis programs that look for and catalog Develop a suite of analysis programs that look for and catalog
anomalies in experiment, theory or discrepancy between them
anomalies in experiment, theory or discrepancy between them – Link to data management system to more systematically Link to data management system to more systematically
categorize different fits
categorize different fits
Multi-dimensional Multi-dimensional Visualization Visualization (human data-mining)(human data-mining)
– We still seem to be using histogramsWe still seem to be using histograms
– Perhaps we could develop some better “standard” displays Perhaps we could develop some better “standard” displays
supported as a Web Services with portlet interfaces (to betray my
supported as a Web Services with portlet interfaces (to betray my
current expertise)
current expertise)
– Printed version of Phys. Rev. Letter still has histogram playing Printed version of Phys. Rev. Letter still has histogram playing
role of “icon”. There is also a URI (Universal Resource
role of “icon”. There is also a URI (Universal Resource
Identifier) which is active in on-line version and gives the “new
Identifier) which is active in on-line version and gives the “new
nifty display”
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Some lessons I
Some lessons I
All confusing effects existAll confusing effects exist and no fundamental (correct) way to and no fundamental (correct) way to remove. So one should:
remove. So one should:
– Minimize effect of the hard (insoluble) problems such as Minimize effect of the hard (insoluble) problems such as
“particles from wrong vertex”, “unestimatable exchange effects”
“particles from wrong vertex”, “unestimatable exchange effects”
sensitive to slope of unclear Regge trajectories, absorption etc.
sensitive to slope of unclear Regge trajectories, absorption etc.
Note many of effects (exchanges) are intrinsically MORE Note many of effects (exchanges) are intrinsically MORE important in multiparticle case
important in multiparticle case than in relatively well than in relatively well
studied
studied π N π N
Try to Try to estimate impactestimate impact of uncertainties from each effect on of uncertainties from each effect on results
results
– Need systematic very high statistic studies of relatively clean Need systematic very high statistic studies of relatively clean
cases where spectroscopy may be uninteresting but one can
cases where spectroscopy may be uninteresting but one can
examine uncertainties
examine uncertainties
– Possibilities are Possibilities are AA11 A A22 A A33 B B11peripherally produced and even peripherally produced and even π N
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Some lessons II
Some lessons II
Theory failed to provide convincing parameterizable Theory failed to provide convincing parameterizable amplitudes one could use to fit/explain data
amplitudes one could use to fit/explain data
Theory provided some quantitative constraints (pi pole, Theory provided some quantitative constraints (pi pole, unitarity, kinematics …), many qualitative truths
unitarity, kinematics …), many qualitative truths
which overlap and whose effect can be estimated with which overlap and whose effect can be estimated with
errors from 10 to 100% errors from 10 to 100%
20 years ago, Rip van Winkle dozed off as not clear 20 years ago, Rip van Winkle dozed off as not clear how to make progress
how to make progress
Now we must take a factor of 100 or so more data to Now we must take a factor of 100 or so more data to tackle problem phenomenologically
tackle problem phenomenologically First step is to clarify techniqueFirst step is to clarify technique
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Effects to Include I
Effects to Include I
Spin Formalism:Spin Formalism: Need BOTH Need BOTH– Amplitude Parameterization – is this practical if Amplitude Parameterization – is this practical if (potential) rank high as with photon beams or non (potential) rank high as with photon beams or non
factorizing exchanges? factorizing exchanges?
– Density Matrix Formalism – how does this cope with Density Matrix Formalism – how does this cope with explicit contributions, analyticity etc.
explicit contributions, analyticity etc.
– Transversity versus helicity formalism needs to be Transversity versus helicity formalism needs to be
investigated – trade-off of analyticity versus selection investigated – trade-off of analyticity versus selection
rules rules
Unitarity:Unitarity: use current approaches building in two- use current approaches building in two-particle unitarity (final state interactions)
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Effects to Include II
Effects to Include II
Exchange Contributions:Exchange Contributions: Identify all allowed (by Identify all allowed (by
normal Regge phenomenology) exchanges and catalog normal Regge phenomenology) exchanges and catalog
where expected to be large due to coupling constants where expected to be large due to coupling constants
and/or values of
and/or values of (t,u)(t,u)
Use usual duality type arguments to identify related Use usual duality type arguments to identify related ss AB
AB
t u
t u exchanges i.e. where you might expect the direct exchanges i.e. where you might expect the direct and crossed descriptions to be related
and crossed descriptions to be related
Develop models for exchange contributions using Develop models for exchange contributions using
simple phenomenological Regge theory but have little simple phenomenological Regge theory but have little
hope this is very reliable except for Pomeron,
hope this is very reliable except for Pomeron, A A22 etc. etc. exchanges and even these won’t be so good as to be
exchanges and even these won’t be so good as to be used at low direct channel energies
used at low direct channel energies
– Identify all Identify all exchange contributions and expect these to be exchange contributions and expect these to be reliable (with “conspirator) near t=0 but unreliable away from
reliable (with “conspirator) near t=0 but unreliable away from
there --
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Effects to Include III
Effects to Include III
Cutkosky style Accelerated Convergence is certainly Cutkosky style Accelerated Convergence is certainly sound but possibly easier to explicitly include high sound but possibly easier to explicitly include high
partial waves rather than choose an expansion that partial waves rather than choose an expansion that
maximizes convergence maximizes convergence
– Certainly examine exchanges and ask if partial waves larger than Certainly examine exchanges and ask if partial waves larger than
those includes are important (in amplitude). If so include
those includes are important (in amplitude). If so include – Could also choose Cutkosky style expansion functionsCould also choose Cutkosky style expansion functions
Dispersion Relations and other AnalyticityDispersion Relations and other Analyticity
– In an amplitude model, it is useful to examine “spin dependent” In an amplitude model, it is useful to examine “spin dependent”
kinematic zeroes and the duality style cancellations
kinematic zeroes and the duality style cancellations
– Present data and fits in a way to display effect (e.g. fixed u cross Present data and fits in a way to display effect (e.g. fixed u cross
sections for reactions with no u channel exchanges) – check
sections for reactions with no u channel exchanges) – check
qualitatively reasonable
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What else we can do?
What else we can do?
Exploit modern computing technology forExploit modern computing technology for– More reliable optimization methods More reliable optimization methods
– Management of Data before and after analysisManagement of Data before and after analysis
GriPhyn and PPDG like efforts will address a lot of base GriPhyn and PPDG like efforts will address a lot of base
technology for data handling before analysis
technology for data handling before analysis
Management of Analysis – Computation and Data – open Management of Analysis – Computation and Data – open
issue
issue
– Powerful multi-dimensional visualization techniques andPowerful multi-dimensional visualization techniques and
– Data mining to discover anomalies in data and/or fits and/or Data mining to discover anomalies in data and/or fits and/or
discrepancies between fits and data
discrepancies between fits and data