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340 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR Metcoff deplored the use of “rather arbitrary

formulae” to simplify the prevention of shock

in burned patients, yet stated they were based

on careful study by Evans et al. and the Brooke

Army Group-and on certain assumptions. He

says that use of these formulae results in the

administration of too much water, sodium, and

protein, yet he admits that “the most important

cause of death after severe burns is the de-velopment of infections in the second post-burn week,” not shock or poorly treated shock.

He uses figures from an earlier paper (New

Eng. I. Med., July 2, 1962) by him and several

colleagues to support his contention of

over-hydration, when in the derivation of these

fig-ures, no account was taken of the fluid lost at the time of admission debridement before ad-mission of the patients to the Metabolic Unit

for balance studies, and where the edema fluid

in the burned area is determined by “some

theoretical estimates” to be 2.8 ml/100 cm of burned area, a figure which seems absurdly

small to one who has witnessed the burn

caused puffiness of face and hands and

meas-ured the urine voided during the period of

diuresis. Using this figure, the ratio of fluid

loss by exudation to that lost to edema (through

the wound: into it) is calculated at slighfly less

than 3 : 1. Ever since Cope and Moore (Ann.

Surg., 126:1010, 1947) demonstrated the

se-questration of fluid in the burn wound, there has been general acceptance of the concept

expressed as follows by Reiss et al. (J.A.M.A.,

152:1309, 1953): “The exudate that weeps so

copiously from the surface of a recent partial

thickness burn is but a small fraction of the

total loss : the ma/or loss occurs in the tissues and is concealed from vision until the wound begins to swell a few hours after injury. In full

thickness burns, visible exudation is completely

absent.”

This premise of fluid loss into the wound and

through it as a cause of hypovolemia is one of

three assumptions which Dr. Metcoff says is

“largely incorrect.” He is critical of the use

of hematocrit determinations and volume of

urine output as guides to fluid therapy, but

offers nothing in their place and distorts the usual practice by using the word “normal”

(pre-determined urine volume) when “minimal” is

the more accurately descriptive term. His third

assumption that “generalized edema is a conse-quence of the pathology of bums” is a straw

man as far as the undersigned is concerned.

Dr. Metcoff states further that the “quanti-ties of potassium provided by the usual repair fluids appear to be inadequate” and then pre-sents evidence of considerable diminution of

renal function-a contraindication to the

ad-ministration of potassium. He worries about the indwelling catheter as a source of blood stream infection when all he has to do is culture his

burn wounds for evidence of a much more

likely source of organisms.

Finally Dr. Metcoff appears to be concerned

that urine output does not reflect fluid input

when the reason for giving fluid is to satisfy the losses into and through the burn wound,

thus preventing further hvpovolemia and

hemoconcentration, and not to flush the

kid-neys!

Bums look big. It is a common house officer error to estimate a burned area at 25 to 50% more than it actually is. When such unrealistic figures are used in a formula, the patient will get 25 to 50% more fluid than he should. (Ac-tually, best results are obtained by using a formula as a springboard only, modifying the amount of water, electrolyte, and protein infu-sion in accordance with clinical and biochemi-cal observations-but not “measured losses of sodium, water, and electrolytes from the burned surface”!!)

So it seems to this user of a formula for planning fluid therapy in burned patients that Dr. Metcoff has attempted to take away much while offering little of practical value in return

and that until his arguments are less

contradic-tory, better supported, and more “simply” pre-sented, he won’t get away with it.

J

OHN CHAMBERLAIN, M.D. Brookline, Massachusetts

EDITOR’S NOTE: Dr. I’Ietcoff’s comment upon Dr.

Chamberlain’s letter follows.

To ThE EDITOR:

Dr. Chamberlain is an experienced pediatric

surgeon with an extensive practical knowledge

of surgical treatment in children. In his

com-mentary on my Commentary on Burn Therapy

(PEDwrnlcs, 29:861, 1962) he takes issue with

a previous paper by my colleagues and myself

(New Engl. 1. Med., 265: 101, 1961). In that

paper each of the arguments was based upon

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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR 341 While Dr. Chamberlain apparently does not

like the words “some theoretical estimates” to

assess the quantity of edema fluid, even the

“theoretical estimate” was based upon the

measured skin water content in normal cliii-dren, as well as that in experimental animals, with the calculated differences based upon the

relative accumulation of fluid in the skin and

subcutaneous area during frank edema

(PEDI-ATRICS, 20: 105, 1957) as well as the specific

accumulation of fluid in tissues burned to

vary-ing degrees and by flame and scald techniques

in experimental animals (Fox & Lasker: Surg.

Gynec. Abst., 112:274, 1961; Fox & Baer,

Amer. I. P/zysiol., 151 : 1947). The statement

by Reiss et a!, (J.A.M.A., 152:1309, 1953)

re-garding the “copious losses” from the bum

sur-face cited by Dr. Chamberlain, was

subse-quentiy modified by Reiss et a!. in a later paper (I. Gun. Invest., 35:62, 1956) in which careful observations were substituted for previous

opinion. With relation to the reference by Cope & Moore (Ann. Surg., 126: 1010, 1957)

these authors carefully studied the increase of

thiocyanate space in five patients with

exten-sive third-degree burns, they equated the

ex-pansion of thiocyanate space with expansion of

the interstitial space due to burn trauma.

Al-though Cope and Moore believed the

expan-sion of the interstitial space was obligatory and

not the result of therapy ((Table IV) the

Corn-mentary in their paper referable to this

state-ment was: “It is of interest that the 8-litre

ex-pansion in extracellular fluid revealed by the

second measurement (five days post-burn) cor-related so closely with the difference between

intake and output during the first 48 hours,

8,937 ccs (Chart 1). In patients who are flooded

with water one cannot estimate the volume of

burn edema by the volume of fluid retained because the factor of renal function becomes so large, and a discrepancy between intake and

output may reflect renal damage.”

While it is always dangerous to extract a

single statement from a long and detailed

ac-count for fear of distorting the totality of the

information and concept provided, their

inter-pretation of that particular item was quite

ac-curate and is ai example of the great value of their paper. It is also consistent with the thesis

put forward in ours.

With relation to the urine output, the large

mass of evidence presented by Cope and

Moore, Evans and associates, Reiss et a!.,

Batchelor et a.l.-cited in our original paper-as well as the important data of Craber and Sevitt (I. Gun. Path., 12:25, 1959), as well as our own data, certainly strongly support the concept that urinary output does not reflect fluid input during the first 24 to 48 hours of

therapy. While one should be concerned when

the kidneys cannot cope with infusion of

cx-traordinary amounts of fluid by enhanced fluid

volume if one is to avoid pulmonary edema,

this does not preclude the concern we have

with the accumulation of fluid in the burned area. The data derived from our studies sug-gest that the extensive accumulation of fluid in the burn area is closely related to, and when

marked, dependent on, the administration of

excessive fluid. One might recall that Cope and

Moore pointed out that despite the huge

ex-pansion of the thiocyanate space with very large infusions of fluid or plasma, the variations in plasma volume were inconsequential. This

indicates that if hypovolemia did indeed exist,

apparently the huge fluid and plasma infusions

did not alter it; rather, most of the administered

fluid gravitated to the injured area.

The purpose of our paper was not to “take

away much while offering little of practical

value in return” but rather to set the record

straight by substituting a limited number of

observations for a large body of intense, but

somewhat misguided, opinion. No easy formula can do justice to generally precise fluid therapy for an individual patient. If one is given data

about how much fluid might be lost from the

burned area, what the limitations of renal re-sponse and urine volume are (supplemented by balance observations), clearly fluid therapy can readily be calculated by anyone with even limited knowledge of body fluid physiology. An example of this type of calculation was

in-corporated in the original paper in order to

“give something back . . .“ and in an endeavor

to offer something of “practical value . . .“

As far as being unable to do more than

present the facts derived from the observations, or to reduce them to a ridiculously simple ex-pression which would please all of the people all of the time, I plead guilty.

Actually, the Commentary was offered as an attempt to assess the contribution made by Dr.

Meeker and his colleagues with relation to

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342 LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

paper. It was not an attempt to publish a

re-hash of our previous paper.

I suspect that Dr. John Chamberlain is

in-deed the spokesman for many less direct,

equally experienced, competent surgeons. If

the paper of my colleagues and myself was

provocative, I hope the provocation will lead to further studies to provide for extensive data which might be compressed into a simplified formulation. Until then, there is an old proverb

which states: “Equinus ad aquam offerri

pos-sibles est

Chicago 1 6, Illinois

J

ACE METCOFF, M.D.

Michael Reese Hospital and Medical Center

Human Milk-Protein-Prematurity

To THE EDITOR:

Sometimes, in order to make an article brief,

authors quote others, but the interpretations of

the new authors may not reflect the context of the original observers. This has occurred in the quotation of several of our papers in a recent

article by Pincus et al.1

First we are quoted as agreeing “that small

infants where fed isocaloric diets gain weight

more rapidly on a diet having a higher protein content’ (author references 12 and 16). In reference 12,2 we state that infants fed 3.0 to

8.0 gm of protein per kilogram gained equally well. Only when the protein intake was below

2.0 gm/kg did the weight curve not rise as

well. Indeed, in this paper, we noted a few

babies taking more than 8 gm/kg protein who

gained very poorly. Reference 16 is an

ab-stract.3 In this abstract we note only that a

higher serum protein is found in those infants

fed a lower protein diet and do not mention weight gains. Unfortunately, the data on which this abstract is based were published in a not

easily available journal. Here we state “81

pre-mature infants have been fed formulas

provid-ing approximately 6.1 gm protein per

kilo-gram, and 81 similar infants, formulas

provid-ing approximately 2.5 gm protein per

kilo-gram. Both groups showed statistically equiva-lent weight gain, well-being, morbidity,

mor-tality, and total serum proteins.”

We are further quoted as agreeing “that

human milk provides sufficient protein for the needs of the premature.” As long-standing

ad-vocates of human milk feedings, we were

chagrined to find on the contrary that

un-fortified human 11111k did not support weight

gain in prematures as well as other feedings.

This was from very limited data in oIll\’ one of our weight groups. We, therefore, discontinued this type of feeding. Likewise we were unable

to relate protein intake to serum proteins. “There were no statistical differences in the serum protein values in infants who were fed 3 to 8 gm of protein/kg :‘day. In contrast, in-fants who were fed less protein (i.e., human

milk) have shown lowered serum protein

values.”2

We write this only because we too would

like to find the ideal feeding for premature in-fants and still feel that a high protein feeding may be harmful to premature infants.

REFERENCES

1. Pincus, J. B., et al.: Protein levels in serum of

premature infants fed diets varying in protein

concentrations. PEDIATRICS, 30 : 622, 1962. 2. Omans, W. B., et at.: Prolonged feeding studies

in premature infants. J. Pediat, 59:951, 1961.

3. Barness, L. A., et al.: Comparison of prematures

fed high and low protein diets. Amer. J. Dis.

Child., 94:480, 1957.

4. Comely, D. A., et at.: Comparison of prematures

fed with two different levels of protein. Pediat. Intern. (It.), 9:9-19, 1959.

WALTER B. OMANS, M .D.

LEwIs A. BARNESS, M.D.

CATHERINE S. ROSE, M.D.

PAUL Cy#{246}ncy, M.D.

Philadelphia, Pa.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Drs. Pincus and Gittleman

re-plied as follows.

To THE EDITOR:

In our article we referred to the publications of Barness et at. and Omans et a!. in three areas dealing with weight gain and with the effect of diets on serum protein levels. Barness

et at. in the American Journal of Diseases of

Children (94:480, 1957) state: “Rate of weight gain was slightly more rapid in infants fed the higher protein formula.” Again, Omans et at. in the Journal of Pediatrics (59: 955, 1961), state: “In the present study the babies who

were fed less than 2.5 gm/kg/day gained

poorly, while those who were fed 3 to 8 gm/ kg/day gained equally well.” These conclusions would lead one to believe that infants gain

better on diets higher in protein.

In the publication by Omans et a!. in the

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