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DVD 02

Igor: How was that, interesting? As the subjects that people with your rigid green chicken believes, do you find how there are some other ways that allow your mind to open up a little bit more, at least to consider the possibility of other ways of being?

This is important. This is what we‟re looking for. We want to create that opportunity inside people‟s minds to just consider another way of being, and that‟s where the mind-bending language plugs in.

If you don‟t have that, you‟ll just sound like a retard on acid. I‟m sorry.

I won‟t repeat it. It‟s not very polite. It‟s not really the face of a good therapist or salesperson. The mind-bending language as a sequence works incredibly well to create these special kinds of covert trance, which we‟ll talk about more as we get into them, but only if you create the context, the space inside the mind in which they can sit, which means:

1. The shields have to come down.

2. They have to actually take your ideas seriously enough to consider them.

Otherwise, there‟s nothing. So in terms of the principles, these aren‟t all of them. We‟ll come up with a few more principles before we‟re through. Would it be fair that we can kind of summarize all these with a simple idea, which might be if you want to change their mind, you‟ve got to change their mood first. Would that be fair to say?

Do you feel how there‟s something happening with the last few exercises that changed your mood enough to be willing to contemplate an alternative reality, shall we say, with a lovely chicken world, other

the right mood – a shift in mood that allowed the mind to follow.

If you‟re going to change people‟s minds, change their moods, and the mind will follow. This is kind of summarized – there are all kinds of interesting campaigns. The military has done these as well, the hearts and minds campaign. If you want someone‟s mind, you start with their heart. When they feel it, then they‟ll believe it.

The same sort of principle, it‟s just hopefully on a more sophisticated level because we‟re creating openings inside the mind.

We‟re starting with creating the mood, which is going to be accepting, open to ideas, rather than closed to ideas. That‟s the fundamental shift we have to make inside the mind before these other maneuvers start taking place.

You can ask the same question, you can present the same kind of information, and depending on how you do it, what context you set up and what impact that you‟ve had on the mind before the question or the information has been presented, you‟re either engaging them on a very light level and maybe rejecting it, or they‟re going to engage on a deeper level and other stuff starts happening.

Would that be fair to say that‟s how your experience has been so far?

After a break, would you like to explore this idea of how to shift the mood to actually get a much deeper impact on their mind? Would that be useful? Let‟s take 15 minutes for a break, but if you aim to be back here in 10 minutes, it‟ll take a few minutes for people to settle down and so on, and that way we‟ll be starting more quickly.

Did you enjoy the morning, the warm up? Do your brains feel like they‟re doing a little bit of work now? Remember, what we‟re doing here is we‟re setting a context, aren‟t we? We‟re setting a context that allows us to start influencing people. It‟s like you‟re a master gardener.

Before you start throwing seeds on the ground and hoping for the best, you‟re preparing the ground. You‟re digging it up and making sure the weeds are out. You‟re checking the soil for conditions so you know what kinds of things will grow in your soil. Make sense?

Those of you who are familiar with this will, of course, know this.

Hopefully, the things we‟ve been doing this morning will start enriching our concept of H+. Does anyone remember what we mean by H+?

coupled with an intense desire for them to have a very positive experience. Notice, we don‟t want anything from them. That‟s kind of a needy thing. Please, please, please have this experience so that I can feel better. We want a lot of things for them. So we want them to experience it for its own sake and, of course, the mind-expanding cause of that positive experience is built into that already.

So, now you have some maneuvers that will enrich that ability. The reason why I say this is because it‟s the most important thing you can do in any process or influence, as far as I‟m concerned – and you‟re welcomed to disagree with me at any point. It‟s a free world, for the moment. The most important thing is to create the context in which everything else happens.

I find so many people focusing on, what are the techniques? What is the language pattern? How can I memorize all this crazy language?

They‟re missing the point. You can have all the language in the world, but if your context is messed up, then there‟s going to be very little that‟s happening. If anything, you‟re going to annoy people the other way.

So always be aware of the context. When you‟re putting on hold all the things you‟ve done up to this point, your other hypnosis trainings, your experiences and so on, the one thing I‟m going to ask you to keep relatively alert is your sense of a social context that you‟re in. Different types of conversations allow you for different types of, say, intimacy, different types of questions, and so on. Does that kind of make sense?

From time to time here, we will purposely violate the social contract in order to see happens when you do that. So when you do it out there, with real people – because, of course, you are all fake people, pretend people. When you do it with people who haven‟t been trained in these things, you‟ll be able to violate enough of the social contract to create the conditions you need without violating it so badly that you break all connections.

So that fine tuning is something you carry into this with you and the only thing here with these things is helping you find what elements you can emphasize to make more of that.

I promised you before the break that we‟d be taking these principles, basically this thing here, and we‟ll be using it in order to basically start people‟s minds navigating to brave new worlds. Wouldn‟t that be something? So let‟s start, if very simply.

 Who

 Where

 When

 How

 What

This is not a metaphysical seminar. I‟m not going to do any spiritual enlightening guru type stuff. I‟m not going to have you contemplating your navel for 10 hours at a time. Those things have value, but it‟s not the purpose of what we‟re here for.

So it may look like this for a moment but really, what we‟re interested in is not so much the metaphysics behind what we‟re about to, it‟s more the experience you put someone through.

For example, if I asked you who are you, chances are most of you would answer with your name, right? Would that be fair? Why is that?

Because that‟s the social context.

Do you shake hands everyday and say, who are who? Oh, my name is so and so. Oh, I‟m so and so. Well, great.

Of course, if I said to you, who are you, and you gave me your name, I‟d say, I know your name. I can read it on your label. What I want to know is who are you? Who are you? Do you begin to see what‟s happening here? Can you sense it? A little bit of pressure.

Your mind is kind of spinning into like a loose gear shall we say, and you‟re not quite sure how to answer that yet.

So what I want you to do is ask the same five questions. The first time around, very quickly, in the same way you did this morning. Who are you? Where are you and so on? You want to get a sense of what their answers are. It will take you 30 seconds.

Once you‟ve asked them the normal way, I want you to start using H+. In other words, start sounding like you are the guru. Like you have your big yellow sash, you‟ve shaved your head, you‟ve got funny marks on your head and you really are interested in something other than the trivial answer. In other words, you‟re interested in their answer that is not this, because this is what we‟re familiar with.

So when you ask these questions: Who are you? Where are you? When are you, etc, I want you to notice the distinction between how people answer when they answer off the top of their head, or when you‟re really making them pay attention and answer in a different way.

around anyways, your job is to try and answer the question as best you can. However, you might not be able to, right? You may have an experience that you can‟t put words on. You may find your mental wheels spinning for a while. It doesn‟t matter. It‟s the act of trying to answer the question that matters.

This whole thing in hypnosis, that trying – do or do not do, there‟s no try – I think someone called it a Yoda-ism the other day. There is truth in that, but the truth is there only in, shall we say, on a more conscious level, where people have used it as an excuse. Yes, I‟ll try to do that. It‟s telling you there‟s an insecurity there and they‟re hedging their bets.

The kind of trying we‟re talking about here is the one that actually makes your brain do something. Hence, it will alter what‟s happening inside your brain. There was an interesting bit of research done with obsessive compulsive disorder. They would go weekly meetings where they would watch brain scans of other people where their compulsion kind of lit up, and they had pretty hard-wired compulsions.

In between those meetings, their only task was when they got home and did whatever their compulsion was – like kissing every window before they leave – they should try – and this is the word, try and resist it for as long as possible.

If they fail, no big deal, if they did it for five seconds one day, no worries, they kiss their windows and they leave. The next day maybe it‟s 10 seconds. Now when they look at these brain scans over a period-of-time, and it does take time, they‟re rewiring their brain.

They can actually see the structures changing from week to week, month to month.

So, trying absolutely counts provided something‟s going on in here. As hypnotists, I want to ask these questions blandly, to get a bland response. Then, I want you to use your H+, really look at them meaningful. Use your tonality, like this is the most important question in the world. You might even repeat it a few times. Who are you? Who are you really?

They might be tempted to say, oh, I‟m a so and so. I know your name, but who are you?

By the way, do you see what I‟m doing? If someone gives me a bland answer, when I‟m actually asking a “deeper” question, or a question

me an answer in here, I acknowledge it and then I‟ll say I want another answer that‟s not this.

So where does that send them? It sends them anywhere but what they know. That‟s where we need them to be. So, just play with this a little bit. Probably five or six minutes apiece, is that enough for you?

Audience: What you‟re describing now, does that fall under mood versus mind?

Igor: Exactly. So the attitude that we‟re creating here is the mood for them to answer the question differently, and you‟ll get a different response.

That‟s kind of the dynamic I want you to start noticing. You can ask the same question in one particular mood, and the answer comes out snappy and quickly.

You can shift their mood by shifting your own mood, by getting a little bit more serious, a little bit more hypnotic, staring at them friendly, and asking the same questions again, and noticing that as their mood changes, the type of answer you get back will also shift. That includes their inability to speak.

In other words, they have no ability to add labels onto what their experience is.

Audience: Yes.

Audience: Are we just asking two or are we asking all five?

Igor: You‟re going to ask all five questions:

1. Who are you?

2. What are you?

3. When are you?

4. Where are you?

5. How are you?

You‟re going to spin through that. If I give you 10 minutes apiece, is that going to be enough time to do both versions, the light version and the deeper version, is that okay with you? Off you go.

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So, how was that? Did you find it interesting? What happened, anyone? So what kind of things happened?

Audience: We tried to hypothesize that it was actually fairly necessary to ask the question in a way that was just normal to start with. Walk up to

who are you, and then coming back to the question so, who are you really?

Igor: This is interesting. You notice how when you‟re doing this, you‟re actually playing with a social context before you violate it? Remember the old principles; you‟re acknowledging them before you start abusing their minds a little bit. That‟s very important.

Now, the other thing that happens and remember; this is just an exercise right now.

We‟re going to be building on this exercise, but it‟s also important to see where you can start pulling out in terms of, when you do start violating the social contract, what starts happening? Some of the things are positive, like did you notice your minds spinning in different directions.

Some of the things are negative; like you realize that if someone random came up to you on the street and said that, you‟d think, okay.

Audience: I just noticed that when you got questions like, when are you, it reminded me of the tip trance from the mind-bending language where you get the mental stutter and you can‟t put words on the answer.

Igor: Did you notice how some of these questions are already loaded because we don‟t go around asking people, when are you? We don‟t do that. That‟s just not a normal question, is it? Again, it has the potential to violate the social contract enough that they might check your pupil dilation.

But then again, if done at the right time, it can send your head spinning in a loop. You begin to feel your head spinning a little bit, like it‟s kind of working out of normal rhythm. That‟s very important.

Audience: It was like you were trying to find an answer that should be there, and you couldn‟t find the file maybe to dig it up.

Igor: Thank you. Did you notice that? It‟s like you know it‟s there somewhere, but what the hell is it? The place all this stuff comes from by the way is – I didn‟t invent the whole process. The foundation for something called “Beyond Words,” which one of my hypnosis mentors, John Overdurf came up with, and we built on that to create this particular model.

I like the title, Beyond Words, because doesn‟t it take you to that place? Just keep that in mind because we‟re not playing with a

about.

When you watch a stage hypnosis show, like you did last night, when you do the regular kind of overt direct hypnosis and so on, it begins to take people into trances, but different kinds of trances than the ones we‟re playing with here. That‟s because we‟re creating a different – we have a different purpose with it.

Audience: When you start to use the term, who are you, it gives you a dimension and it defines their character and the substantive value that comes with that, and as a psychologist, I can see the difference in them and the way they express themselves, and the values that they bring to you.

It gives you more definitive information to play with and understand who they are, but you really understand the essence of who they are.

Igor: Right and you have to switch the tempo on them to be able to get that essence more clearly. Because what you‟re doing is you‟re kind of exploring this area around the edge at the moment, which says okay, these are things I define myself as. Now, the interesting thing is – and we‟ll come on to this in a moment, what do you think would happen if you took them right to the edge.

Normally, if you ask them, who are you, it‟s somewhere right in the middle of us, isn‟t it? It‟s like, yeah, my name‟s John or Jack or Jill or whatever. Then you get a little bit weird on them and go, no but who are you really? You might even touch their shoulder or gaze at them intently and go there‟s something going on here. Who are you really?

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