Ralph - HPC - Transcript-Manual - DVDs

Igor: I’m going to do this a little bit out of context, but shall we do a little experiment with this quickly? Is that okay with you guys? Would you like to play with this? Is that okay with you? Do you want to pass him the mic?

You can stay where you are. That’s fine. You can have the camera there so they can see you.

When we started earlier today, you said the sensation in your shoulder was at what level?

Student: No, it was the lower back.

Igor: Lower back, sorry. What level was it at?

Student: About a three to four.

Igor: Where is it now?

Student: Actually a little bit higher.

Igor: What is it now? Give me a number.

Student: Five.

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you’re more comfortable. Tell me when you notice a shift beginning to happen, just the first step of that shift.

Now notice first of all I haven’t done the full conversation with him. I haven’t checked in with him yet whether all my start-up frames are fully absorbed. Does that make sense? But I’m still using the presupposition and notice what happens? What’s happening now?

Student: I feel a shift in the pain.

Igor: There’s a shift in the back, isn’t there? Now you had no idea it was going to come, did you?

Student: No.

Igor: You have no idea how you did that, do you?

Student: No.

Igor: Yet there it is, isn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: Do you see the non-awareness set starting to come up here? That’s where the non-awareness set really lives and breathes its best. I wonder what will happen if you continue that. Do you think it will drop a whole number? There you go. What did you do?

Student: I don’t know.

Igor: And what number is it at now?

Student: Probably three.

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than a minute. Do you think it will continue?

Student: Probably.

Igor: I would tend to agree. What’s happening now?

Student: It’s even lower.

Igor: Even lower. What’s the number now?

Student: A little bit less than two.

Igor: A little bit less than two. You’re good at this. Did you know you were this good?

Student: No.

Igor: You had no idea, did you?

Student: No idea.

Igor: No idea at all. Yet there you are doing it with expert ease. It’s still going on, isn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: I wonder if it will reach a zero all the way or if your unconscious mind will take a leaf out of Liz’s book and go the other way. What just happened there?

Student: I don’t feel it.

Igor: You don’t feel it.

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Igor: Right, so like it’s a sensation. Remember the friend I had with the sensation of a thumb there? Would you call that pain in any way, shape or form?

Student: Not really.

Igor: No, it’s just a reminder that you need to take care of your back, right?

Student: Yes.

Igor: Is that a good reminder to have?

Student: Yes.

Igor: Did you expect it to happen so quickly?

Student: Not at all.

Igor: How do you do that?

Student: Don’t know.

Igor: How did that work? It’s clearly working, right?

Student: Oh yeah.

Igor: You’re sure about this?

Student: Yes.

Igor: You’re not messing with me about this?

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Igor: I’m glad to hear that. There it is. Just check in again. What level is it at now?

Student: I don’t feel it.

Igor: You don’t feel it, do you?

Student: No.

Igor: Now are you willing to make this commitment to yourself, to your unconscious mind, to your physical wellbeing to pay attention to that? In other words, to take it easy on your back, to not strain your back because clearly it’s getting your attention of that stuff, right?

Student: Yes.

Igor: And it’s important to give that a chance to heal to the extent that it can physically heal, and to the extent that it cannot, to be comfortable that you’re going to take care of it despite whatever may be going on in there, right?

Student: Right.

Igor: Is that a commitment you can make?

Student: Yes.

Igor: How are you going to engage in fulfilling that commitment? What are you going to do different now? How are you going to live your life differently to make sure that you’re looking after that back like that?

Student: Pay attention to it.

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can do something. What do you think it will be if it needs your attention because you’ve forgotten for whatever reason?

Student: I’m not sure.

Igor: Just pay attention right now. What’s happening there? What’s that? It’s definitely not pain, is it?

Student: No.

Igor: But it’s curious, isn’t it?

Student: Kind of almost like a low grade electrical sort of signal.

Igor: Exactly, like a low grade electrical sort of signal, basically, saying hey hello I’m here. Just pay attention. As soon as your attention goes to it, do you need a signal anymore?

Student: No.

Igor: Now watch what happens then. There you go. Pretty quick, isn’t it? You’re good. That’s fast, isn’t it?

Student: It’s amazing.

Igor: Better than medication, isn’t it?

Student: Definitely.

Igor: I’m not saying you don’t ever take medication. Please do not even consider that I would even imply that because there are appropriate times for that sort of thing, right?

Student: Right.

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advice and your own personal opinion and so on, right?

Student: Right.

Igor: What I am referring to, though, is that your body can do a better job than most external influences. That’s just proved it to you, hasn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: How do you feel about that?

Student: Good.

Igor: Pretty cool, isn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: Did you think it would happen so quick?

Student: No, not at all.

Igor: That’s why it didn’t but isn’t it good to know that you can be wrong sometimes?

Student: Yes.

Igor: As you look into your future, I have a sense that in the past when you looked forward you kind of brought all this backache along with you, right?

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Igor: You can’t help it some respects. What does your future look like now?

Student: Comfortable.

Igor: Comfortable. That’s a good word, isn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: Just close your eyes and I’ll leave you in there for a while. I’ll just take your microphone back as you do that. Just close your eyes and really feel that comfort.

Please do not open your eyes again until you are firmly convinced that whatever it is you just learned to do will be there for you as the days turn into weeks, the weeks turn into months, months into years and your whole life goes before you with that kind of comfort. Realizing that from time to time discomfort can still come in because that’s what part of life is about, but it will not be anywhere near what it was before in relation to that area of your back.

This makes sense, doesn’t it? So just carry on with that all in your own time. Do you see the presuppositions in action? Did I do anything? I did a huge amount but it wasn’t here. It was in my preparation of it and I just presupposed it. I wonder when it’s going to change.

As soon as a little bit of change, it just goes back to the question we had here. How do you reframe the idea that it’s permanent? You can presuppose it. When some little bit shifts, let me know when it happens.

Just stand up and we’ll get a mic to you. Is this useful to you?

Student: What I thought was really cool about that whole thing…

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me just pass it back so that everyone can hear you.

Student: It’s very strange. It’s just a feeling of complete at ease and peace and comfort and everything that goes along with the pain not there.

Igor: It’s good to know you can, isn’t it?

Student: Yes.

Igor: You did a great job. Honestly, you did a really good job. (applause) Yes, I think he deserves it. Please?

Q&A Session

Student: My apologies for that.

Igor: You couldn’t see it.

Student: What I felt was really cool about that is actually your first sort of presupposition when you started to work with him. I’m sorry I can’t remember your name off-hand.

Igor: It’s Roland.

Student: When you first started to do the actual work about five or 10 minutes ago, what I thought was really cool was the first thing you said to start the work was sit back and feel more comfortable. That, of course, was the word that ended up coming out first that he was feeling.

Igor: Also, you’ve got to bear in mind we’re also setting the right conditions.

Part of that is the suggestion and it was well spotted that it was just woven in there, but part of it is also just being aware of physical reality.

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Hypnotic Pain Control ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved When you are sitting like this versus like this, which one puts less strain on your back? So why work against it? Why put yourself in the most awkward position? I can be a dancing Kung Fu Master. Now make my pain go away.

Why make it difficult to begin with when all the body wants is for you to listen enough to put it at ease again. That’s the whole purpose of a signal.

If the signal’s doing anything other than that, then it’s trying to get your attention on something else. It has nothing physical to do anymore, in which case you can get the message some other way. Does that make sense to you?

Please don’t think that absolutely every single client you’ll see for pain control will instantly vanish all the pain in like five minutes, although it happens to have been the experience here, because first of all that conversation can take longer with some and shorter with some. I have worked very long with some people. I’m sure you have too.

Second, sometimes the sensation just goes down to a two or a one or whatever they can live with and they’re good with that. That’s where they are. Rather than pushing them because you want to have a perfect record, let them be where they need to be. Is this making sense to everyone? In some respects doing too good a demo is problematic because then the expectation is I must always get it down to a zero and make them feel great, and that’s not always true.

There are people who are actually better off carrying a small amount of pain with them because it helps them pay attention. Some people just need that but the thing is it will no longer debilitate them in their life. It will no longer have the same sort of impact it did before. Do you see where I’m going with this? I’m just putting it in perspective a little bit.

Do you want to stand up?

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it could maybe be used in the case of a social pain in a way. For example, if I imagine a fear of public speaking being in a way a fear of being….

Igor: This is all just hypnosis so every principle can be used in lots of different ways. A lot of you came up to me during the breaks and asked me can you do this with child birth? Can we do this with sportspeople? Can we do this for this and that? The answer is of course you can.

The method I’m giving you here is just a simple way of understanding how straightforward pain control can be, and to realize that the conversation you have before you begin is the method. The thing at the end – I have like probably three or four different methods with each person, haven’t I?

Did I know I was going to make that method up at the time? No, because I’m just doing the principles. I was thinking about presuppositions and to be honest with you I have no idea why I asked Roland to engage in it other than my instinct was he’d be a good person to do this with.

I originally intended to work with Gary first, but hey what do I know?

Luckily the person I’m not knows more, so that’s the one I trust. Does that help? Yes, these principles will work on pretty much anything but we’re focusing specifically on pain control now. They come in with pain, so you’re going to help them to manage that to the point where they can leave in some form of comfort, at least a diminished amount of the limitations that brings.

Just pass it right behind you.

Student: So you come in with someone with say arthritis. Their doctor can only control so far but cannot stop the thing that causes it.

Igor: Let’s just take this question up. The idea is what if their condition is real, like arthritis? The doctors can’t do anything with it. Wasn’t your condition arthritis? You’ve just seen it. There’s your answer right there. That has

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Vertebrae, thank you.

Student: Right, but he can alter what he does. Say this person can’t alter what’s causing this problem. He can’t take care of it. He can’t listen to that signal.

Can we just make the signal less so that it is…

Igor: Sure, that’s exactly what we just talked about. Some people need a little bit of that. There’s going to be an infinite amount of what ifs. Now you know the principles. Work with what you’ve got.

However, one thing I will say is, do not presuppose your own limitations onto your client. I have no idea if that particular individual – he could have the most messed up bone structure in the world and still be totally comfortable because his neurology allows for that as an experience. How would I know ahead of time?

If it happens to be that then great, as long as he can get on with a better life after we’ve worked with him, I’ve done a good job and I know I won’t necessarily be able to work with everyone. I’m incapable of that. I don’t think any human being is capable of that.

Stand up and we’ll get a mic to you. Does that kind of make sense to you?

There will be millions of what ifs. You just deal with what’s right in front of you and then you’ll know what to do.

Go ahead.

Student: Igor, to answer his question, I’ve been here from the beginning and I’ve been suffering through pain in my shoulders all the way down to the back.

The thing is, I wish you’d started this program, this pain control from the beginning. I’ve been really suffering and a lot of people know it here. The thing is that you did this induction to the other individuals here and I went

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Igor: Beautiful and you did that. It had nothing to do with me. You had to get a medical referral form.

Student: I followed the whole thing right through.

Igor: It wasn’t me.

Student: I said the F word. This was before the break, and I said my God, what is this. I’m saying honestly wow.

Igor: And you’re saying wow to yourself because you did every single part of that, just so you’re aware of this. Who here is starting to get really impressed by the power of the mind that every single human being carries around with them? You really should be because this is a pretty amazing tool.

Go ahead please.

Student: Hi. What do you do with like a brachial plexus, a nerve injury where it’s not pain but it’s complete numbness and years of numbness? It’s always a feeling of that phantom limb but you have it.

Igor: Sure, it’s exactly the same thing. Let’s face it, if there are no nerves there, then they can’t actually sense anything there where there’s nothing to sense. That’s just part of their neurology. Once again the problem isn’t whether, or not they can feel something there because clearly physically it’s not there.

The problem is how they relate to it. They relate to numbness as a bad thing. I’ve never dealt with that, so I can’t say I’d specifically do this but an idea that popped in my mind, which is a little cheeky, is if you can have

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They could develop that spontaneously and if all that happens is they’re okay with not feeling something in a particular area – and let’s face it.

Until I just mentioned it right now, who was thinking about the bottom of the left sole of their feet? No one.

It was for all intents and purposes numb. So we clearly can function without awareness of a part of our body if that’s the limitation there. It’s the fear, it’s the reservations, it’s the I’m broken, I’m hurt, I’m injured –

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