S e p t e m b e r 2 5th, 2003, 05:21 PM
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How to m a k e a c u s t o m m a d e s i l e n c e r f o r a R e m i n g t o n 7 1 0 M o d e l . 3 0 - 0 6 rifle?
S e p t e m b e r 2 5th, 2003, 05:28 PM
A-BOMB
T h i s h a s b e e n d i s c u s e d s o m any tim e its not funny, you should of searched and you would of prob ably found what you were l o o k ing for. And neve r post a topic on first post bye-bye.
S e p t e m b e r 2 5th, 2003, 06:26 PM
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The Explosives and Weapons Forum > Military Science > Gunsmithing and Firearm Modification > I need a receiver diagram! View Full Version : I need a receiver diagram!
October 25th, 2003, 12:24 AM xmarinevet
I was wondering if anyone could help in finding a receiver diagram for a sten sub. I've found like twenty that look like they were drawn by a twelve year old kid and the ones n the pmjb book series suck. I want something that I can print out and paste on a piece of tube, cut with a torch, drill holes, sand, and put on my parts kit. If any body has any links to any cheap homemade subguns that would be helpful too. I have the one by luty and metrel, I hope to atempt them soon. Thanks
October 25th, 2003, 12:49 AM irish
Mod's,
is it ok to post a link to a gunsmithing forum here ? I remember NBK going through someone for posting links to other forums.
October 25th, 2003, 02:19 AM xyz
I beleive there are receiver diagrams for all kinds of pistols, rifles, and SMGs on the FTP.
Irish, I think NBK was only doing that because they were advertising the other forum and their post was solely for that purpose. You should be OK posting a link for the purpose of spreading information.
October 25th, 2003, 06:36 AM Ammonal
Hey xmarinevet, I had these plans on my hard drive, they look like it would be feasible to make a sten from them. I might one day but I got no 9mm ammo so... http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/sten_mk2_complete_machine_instructions.pdf
October 25th, 2003, 07:27 AM xyz
IIRC even if you do have access to 9mm ammo (unlikely in Australia) there is a very slight difference between the 9mm ammo for pistols and the 9mm ammo for SMGs. Before anyone starts an argument, I know that pistols and subs both fire the 9mm parabellum round but I have heard on this forum that 9mm pistol ammo will cause jams in SMGs and I have also seen a handgun manufacturers website where there were specific safety instructions not to fire 9mm SMG ammo in that manufacturer's handguns. The only way that I can think of for you to get 9mm SMG ammo in Australia is for you to buy once fired SMG brass from the military or someone else, then reload the ammo yourself.
I know that to buy 9mm ammo you have to have a license with a 9mm weapon recorded on it but do you need this for buying 9mm reloading components? You would need a license for buying the reloading components of course but I am not sure if you need a license with a 9mm recorded on it.
You could always buy a rifle chambered for any small pistol round so that you can buy primers and powder, buy once fired brass, and cast your own bullets.
October 25th, 2003, 07:36 AM zaibatsu
Check www.roderuscustom.tzo.com I think this is probably the group Irish is referring to, it's very good although I don't have enough time for it at the moment.
October 25th, 2003, 07:15 PM blacktalon
I have heard people talking about SMG ammo a lot. The difference is the powder used. Long barreled SMG's can make better use of a slower burning powder. Pistols and short barreled SMG's need to have as much powder burned in a very short time however, so they require a faster burning powder. (duh) There is no real difference in jamming however. If you have a Jam-O-Matic like a Mac-10, it will jam with pistol or SMG ammo.
Now to the origional topic. Why do you need precision blueprints for a Sten? It is a crude gun. Your precision blueprints would be about the only precision part of the firearm. They were made in bike shops during WWII. Most people make their Stens with a Dremal and they work fine. Why put the extra effort into it?
October 25th, 2003, 10:36 PM xyz
blacktalon, yes, the SMG in question was a MAC-11:)
So you should be alright with using 9mm pistol ammo in a sten then, especially if you were to shorten the barrel.
October 25th, 2003, 11:31 PM xmarinevet
Yeah I have to agree stens are pretty crude but I have enough parts kits that I can make some serious dough if I can make some impressive guns. SMG's just arent the type of thing that you see around here everyday and I've had some pretty good offers made by some local yokals. If anybody knows any better recievers for cheap parts kits I would really appreciate it. I've heard an AK is about the simplest buy I cant find blueprints.
October 25th, 2003, 11:55 PM xyz
There are several sets of AK blueprints on the FTP along with a detailed guide on assembling AK and RPK weapons.
October 26th, 2003, 12:07 AM xmarinevet
I tried to get on the ftp but i put the wrong user number or something and told i was denied for lieing.
October 26th, 2003, 01:02 AM JDAM
I hope that you are actually ignorant of the federal law against making machine guns without being a licensed manufacturer, even then anything made after 1986 is not legal for pvt ownership...Its not like us legal gun owners need people making it tougher to keep the feds and shit off our backs. It only takes one dumb MFer to open his trap or go flashing it and there it is on the news and in the paper with anti's spewing how we need confiscation and registration. Not to mention anything done illegally with said weapons would also make you involved in additional charges.
JDAM
October 26th, 2003, 01:53 AM irish
zaibatsu, that is the forum I was referring too they have some very good info on there.
As for reloading components, in Australia you don't need a licence to buy them but some places may be a bit funny about selling powder and primers, there are no records kept for anything exept for gun's so you will be ok buying components or live ammo with or without a licence (if you can find somewhere that will sell to you without one) you will not go on record as having got a lot of 9mm ammo :) .
October 26th, 2003, 01:21 AM xyz
Irish, from a what a friend wtih a firearm license tells me, you not only need to have a license for buying ammo, you also need to own a licensed weapon of that calibre (all the weapons you own are recorded on your license).
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But I think that all you need to buy reloading components is a firearm license of any kind. But all this may only be for my state of course.
If what you say is true about ammo without a license, you may be able to order your ammo online from somewhere else in the country.
October 26th, 2003, 01:35 AM xmarinevet
Send me a money order and a list and I'll mail the ammo to you. Or the powder, primers, and lead. It must really suck living in a place with gun control that strict.
October 26th, 2003, 09:29 AM Ammonal
In 7 days time there is a local sports store / gunshop that is closing. Because of this they have excellent discounts on ammo and reloading equipment and are not "in the mood" for asking lots of questions. I can see myself not running short on ammo in the short term if I jump at the opportunity ;)...
October 26th, 2003, 09:35 AM xyz
xmarinevet, no thanks. Trying to post 9mm ammo or components to Australia is just asking for trouble. A form is needed for importing ammo or ANY components of it (be it primers, powder, cases, or projectiles, even airpellets) and you also have to seek approval from the firearms branch of the police.
I am willing to bet 10Kg of RDX that the recipient of the ammo would have ASIO, customs, and the local cuntstabulary bashing their door down in a matter of days.
October 26th, 2003, 05:28 PM irish
xyz, Sorry I didn't make it very clear what I was saying (big night saturday night :D , what your friend told you is correct but to buy ammo you only have to show them your licence to prove you have one they don't make any sort of record as to who bought what etc.
They may not sell pistol ammo if you only have a A or B licence though some of them are a bit suss about that.
Components you don't need a licence for, if you do reload go to a pistol range and get a bag of once fired 9mm shells (single flash hole only) they will cost next to nothing also get a good reloading manuel don't improvise with powder loads til you know what you are doing as far as pressure goes.
You will be able to improvise everything exept for the powder measures (unless you weigh every load one at a time)
October 26th, 2003, 07:09 PM xyz
irish, I am not the one who was wanting 9mm ammo anyway, I was suggesting ways of obtaining it to Ammonal.
There is plenty of good reloading data available online at powder manufacturers websites. Go to www.adi-limited.com for loading data for ADI powders, which should be available almost everywhere is Australia.
If you want to buy pistol ammo with an A or B license, just get a lever action cowboy rifle or a TC contender chambered for pistol calibres (you can have a contender with multiple barrels chambered for multiple pistol calibres).
October 26th, 2003, 07:36 PM Spartin13
Hi please forgive me for asking this question (I'm new to this board and have tried to watch to learn) I was wondering what is FTP that has been refered to in this thread? Thank You
October 27th, 2003, 05:12 AM xyz
The FTP is a service provided to some forum members that is now hosted by chemwarrior (it used to be hosted by Ctrl_C), where members can upload, share, and download books and information about explosives and weapons.
There is a form to apply for an FTP account that can be filled out on the main roge science page, but you have to have been a member for a while and proven your worth before you will be granted access.
October 28th, 2003, 02:51 AM xmarinevet
Thanks to everyone who contributed. The damn things do jam. I even half loading the magizine but after 5 or 6 shots it usually jammed. I say piss on it. Any body got any idea how to make one semi auto. If I can figure out how I guess I'll just sell the parts or make a bolt action or something.
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October 27th , 2003, 03:20 AM
xmarinevet
Any body got any idea where to find blueprints for a m7 9. I'm considering it for a next project.
October 27th , 2 0 0 3 , 0 2 : 5 6 P M
sammy
you can purchace blueprints / schem atics of the m - 7 9 4 0 m m grenade lancher at http://www.e-gunparts.com /schem atics.asp hope this helps...
October 28th , 2003, 02:44 AM
xmarinevet
Thanks but why buy what you can find for free. rodderscustom s has a section in their forum where you can freely download p df blue prints or what ever. I found som e 2 0 3 b l u e prints and I'm g o n n a s e e w h a t I c a n d o t o i m provise to m 79. I like the m 7 0 l o o k whole lot better. Anybody interested in the finished prints let m e know.
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S e p t e m b e r 1 3th, 2004, 10:54 PM
bipolar
I found a pretty cool thing I thought a lot of yall might be interested in for improvised weapons. It's an online m a c h i n e s h o p with a very easy to use CAD program of its own. You just design anything and the y have C NC m achines of all types to do what ever you want. http://www.em a c h i n e s h o p . c o m
You design it, it autom atically gives yo u a quote, you put in credit card info and it ships th e exact part you designed right to your door. I think it is kind of expensive though. But yo u could concievably get a whole machine gun built this way. Like one of Bill Bill holm e s g u n s o r y o u c o u l d u s e t h i s f o r s o m e harder parts or whatever. You could probably easily get ar-15 m-16 receivers made this way. Just use the blueprints on biggerham m er.net
I was putting in the upper receiver of the .22 m achine p istol but i decided that would be pretty easy to do m y s e l f , b e c a u s e I a m getting a m illing m a c h i n e s o o n . I t o o k p a r t o f a m a c h i n e s h o p c l a s s a t t h e l o c a l c o m m unity college. I a m t a k i n g a n Autodesk Inventor 6(which I h ave a copy of) co urse next week. On inventor you can actually set mechanical assem blies in m otion to test them out virtually and design in 3D.
S e p t e m b e r 1 5th, 2004, 06:16 AM
ninja42
You really think they will m a k e a n y p a r t o f a f i r e a r m ?
I usually have a lot of trouble thinking of an inconspicuous use of parts that I let a m a c h i n e s h o p m a k e .
A barrel or a framepa r t i s e a s i l y d i s g u i s e d a s a n e n g i n e p a r t b u t h a m mers,grips and bolts are usually well known to an e x p e r i e n c e d m a c h i n i s t .
I think parts aren't shipped worldwide. ninja.
S e p t e m b e r 1 6th, 2004, 06:22 PM
nbk2000
You could use it for som e t h i n g .
Parts for a biological agent disperser? Nozzles for HV rockets? There's always som ething. :)
January 17th , 2005, 11:41 AM
Jacks Complete
J u s t a s a s m a l l u p d a t e . I d o w n l o a d e d t h e d e m o p r o g r a m , and it is a very neat little program for doing 3D CAD, and working out what type of processes, etc. you will need.
However, the prices! $450 was about as low as I could g et for a sim ple steel "barrel" m achined from c h e a p m i l d s t e e l b a r , a n d turned down. It wasn't even funny. It was a large bore, and a short length (10cm ), so would have taken anyone with a lathe f i v e m i n u t e s t o b o r e a n d t h e n a n o t h e r t e n t o p o l i s h . I g ave up at that point. I didn't waste m y tim e trying to see if there was a way to rifle the barrel. U nless it is going to be a m ajor investm ent, it seem s that the costs for a on e - o f f a r e t o o h i g h , a n d t h e s e t - u p c h a r g e s a r e q u i t e v a s t .
January 18th , 2005, 11:29 AM
bipolar
Yeah, I also noticed that the prices were outrageous. you'd definently be better off going to a local m a c h i n e s h o p o r f i n d i n g o n e o n l i n e a n d g e t t i n g to know the guy who works there or som e t h i n g . a n d j u s t u s e a n o n y m o u s e m ail,tracphone, or som eth ing to contact him and pay with cash or m oney order and don't tell him your real nam e.
usually the m a c h i n e s h o p t y p e s a t l e a s t i n m y area are all gun owner, hunting types. I took part of a m a c h i n e s h o p c l a s s a t the local com m u n i t y c o l l e g e a n d a l l o f t h e m were wearing cam o p a n t s a n d f r o m out in the country.
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Jacks Complete
H e h e h e . P r o b a b l y b e c a u s e t h e y a r e t h e o n l y p e o p l e w h o h a v e r o o m f o r t w o l a t h e s , a w o o d l a t h e , a m illing m a c h i n e , p e d a s t a l grinder and two welders, and then actu ally get in the room !
For the prices eMachine charge, I kid you not, you could buy a sm all lathe and use it for two parts. You would have saved a little m oney, and still have a good little lathe.
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September 18th, 2004, 12:18 PM xload
I bought "expedient 9mm sumbachine gun" book by P.A Luty and I'm making this smg. My webpage is http://es.geocities.com/subfusil_asalto/
Please send me ideas or comments. thanks
September 19th, 2004, 09:21 PM tdog49
I was wondering when you'd come back...
I am really looking forward to pics and possibly a movie showing it firing when you finish the smg. till then good luck and keep us posted.
September 20th, 2004, 03:47 AM aikon
Nice to see that you're back xload. I check your page regularly to see if there's any progress. Good Luck.
September 20th, 2004, 07:15 AM Trigger Mike
Is there any chance of being able to scan the book and make it availlable for download?Is it on the FTP already?I'd be interested in reading it and following your project to see how it turns out,xload.Good luck.
September 20th, 2004, 08:23 AM aikon
To Trigger Mike: The book can be found on the FTP in the Weapon's folder. Its about 33MB.
September 20th, 2004, 11:54 AM xload
I read a lof ot books about homemade weapons, but Luty books are really a homemade weapon, luty weapons are very easy to make.
I only needed a lathe for a few pieces, beacuse i can't found some pieces in Spain and to make the barrel (I bought a blank rifled barrel in Ebay, arround $ 30 us)
I'm making some parts to the bolt, beacuse it's the most important piece (with the barrel) and i'm making it carefully. I will put at my webpage and roguesci ftp the test firing video beacuse i can't found any videos or pictures of this improvised weapon.
September 22nd, 2004, 05:05 AM MMIV
I was thinking of making the smg in .22 instead of 9mm, cuz the ammo in the Oz would b hard 2 get and attract attention cuz they r 4 handgun, which u need a license.
On the other hand i thought of making cases from metal/brass rod in lathe.
September 22nd, 2004, 11:38 AM tdog49
trigger,
1. You can also purchase the book here: http://www.paladin-press.com/
2. And there is a .32/.380 version here:
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/bookadvert.html
3. bonus! #2 link has plans for single shot silenced .22lr and single shot 12ga pistol for free. MMIV,
1. Bill Holmes has a .22lr book that can be found on the ftp or at the 1st link above. 2. wont say that making your own cases is a bad idea,but.... it is TMW.
Too Much Work... Your looking at CNC type tolerances that you'll have to keep too. If you can afford CNC machinery, you can afford 9mm brass...(licensed or not)
September 22nd, 2004, 02:48 PM xload
trigger,
1. You can also purchase the book here: