Q & A Session - CHPH2 - DVDs - Transcripts - Part

Igor: So how is everyone doing? All: Great.

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All: Yes.

Igor: Is this making a little bit more sense now yes? All: Yes.

Igor: Don’t worry, we’ll draw you a nice cleaner version on the board later on, so you can actually see the cycles and actions and so on. In fact Sarah, whilst we are doing our next segment could you choose a nice piece of wall and do a long version of this with all different variations so – yeah like that long, so you have going down to unpleasant then cycling again, unpleasant and cycling again, unpleasant and cycling back to neutral then to happy, back up so they see the whole thing visually represented. I will point you that way over the lunch break okay? So we have a couple of questions and this gentleman here was waiting for some time. Do you want to stand up so we can get your mic to you?

Q: When I put this all together I find out there is a – it’s all about replacement. So you replace a bad habit, put in whatever it is, relaxation and the person is going back to find out if it’s all replaced if not then it’s the approach by you to get out the other bad habit or the same bad habit, but through the rest what is left and then you put in the relaxation or something else, what it is or whatever it is. The only…

Igor: Yeah you are 100% correct.

Q: And the approaching is what we do here now.

Igor: So do you remember this, do you remember this diagram here? Q: Yes.

Igor: That’s the replacement. Remember all this – all this guys up here are ready to come in and destroy these guys down here, so that what used to make them feel bad now empowers them, now let me say this, I’m not saying what used to make them feel bad makes them feel good. What I don’t want to do is help Renee feel good about smoking. That’s not what she asked for, right? Do you understand the subtle difference here? It’s what used to make her feel bad, in this case it’s the

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Q: Yeah because if you don’t replace it, there is a gap and you can fall in it again. Igor: Exactly.

Q: If it is drinking or smoking its, whatever it is.

Igor: This brings us to exactly the next point and thank you for bringing this up. I know there is another question, we’ll come to you in a moment again. But consider a mountain… when it rains what begins to happen on mountains they get wet, right? Does the rain like run down the mountain in equal proportions everywhere?

Q: No.

Igor: What does it do? It collects into rivers, right? So little streams come together and suddenly you have a big mighty river, right? What is the essential quality of the river? It’s the channel that is bigger than any other part of the mountain which is why the water collects there because it goes to lowest point is that fair to say? So if I come along and I start pouring water on the mountain up here with a giant watering can where is the water going to go? Most of it is going to go down the channel that already exists. That’s kind of how problems work isn’t it? When you’ve got that neurological connection wired up it’s like a channel, as soon as a new energy comes in it will most easily fall into that channel, which is why we keep getting sucked into it. Make sense?

What Mind Bending Language does is this, you should be very familiar with this here in California, it’s called an earthquake. What happens to structures in an earthquake? They collapse. So we are now temporarily collapsing this channel. However the essence of the channel is still there at some level isn’t it? The trace of the old pattern is still there. There is physical connections and neurons in the brain and so on. So what do we have to do if we want to move the river, we have to be able to hijack it and create a new channel that leads somewhere different so that every time it rains it may start here but it ends somewhere completely different. Is this making sense to everyone?

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Igor: That is the final part of the T of the PCAT, it’s not to transform, its transform and test. Each time you test, what you are actually doing is not only getting information about how well this thing worked, but you are also conditioning them. You are conditioning them to the new response. The harder you test the deeper the channel will go. So I test lightly at first and we have just a light channel here because it takes a lot of effort to dig deep, right? I don’t want to miss and create the wrong channel by accident. So we test a little bit harder and a little bit harder eventually we get a nice big whoa. One of these, oh yeah. At some point it will be easier to find this new channel than it is to find the old channel, at that point your change has taken place. That’s when it becomes shall we say as permanent as the problem used to be, because you realize nothing in life is actually permanent, right, and whatever this is, there may be even better ways that they can evolve to in time, but the point is the energy or the rain when it collects will no longer collect down the problem path. If you do not test, the risk that you have after the earthquake is, some water goes down the new channel, but the old channel gets washed open again because there is still enough of it left to start collecting rain water. Do you see what the metaphor is like?

So you are 100% correct. We need to replace whatever was driving the behavior and the behavior will spontaneously be replaced as well. We need to replace it with something else. You know the – you’ve heard the phrase nature abhors a vacuum, right? So you need to place something in there. Do not leave it just open ended. You can leave it opened ended in the sense that they can fill it in themselves. Did I choose relaxation as a resource?

Q: No.

Igor: No, but did you notice how it spontaneously arose. She went into a special kind of trance in which many things were possible and of all those possibilities the one that her unconscious mind selected for us was relaxation, wasn’t it? Now do you begin to see the importance of this? The reason she selected relaxation is because we set the parameters upfront. I’m a smoker I don’t want to smoke and the unconscious mind found the best path to connect this two up.

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CHPH 2.0 ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved In this case it’s that relaxation and all of the other things that came with that start of relaxation because that wasn’t normal relaxation was it? It wasn’t it just like yeah I’m relaxed, it was a special kind of relaxation. A therapeutic relaxation shall we call it. But she called it relaxation therefore I called it relaxation even though I could clearly see it was more than just regular relaxation, do you see where I’m going with this? I don’t need to know what that resource is, because if I have set my parameters up the unconscious mind will fill it in for me. Does this idea make sense to you?

In terms of Mind Bending Language what you are doing, does this make sense to you? If the first earth quake does not move the river what do you do? You shake it again exactly and you felt pretty shaken a few times, right? Does this make sense to you guys? So there is a few more questions over here and then I think somewhere else go ahead. Stand up and get the mic.

Q: I noticed that several times you ask are you sure? Are you sure, are you sure? And the more you ask it, it seemed like she was almost saying yeah that’s mine you can’t take away.

Igor: Yeah.

Q: So could you say something about that?

Igor: Sure – and then just pass it forward I think this guy in front of you wants next. So here is what is happening in the test cycles, remember what are we doing. We are testing to make sure it’s working. If anything bad is going to happen, it should happen in front of me. If it’s going to fail, fail right in front of me please because then I can fix it.

The second thing we are doing is we are testing, we are conditioning rather. Now let us say you plant a new tree in your garden and you want to know whether its roots are taking and it’s firmly set in the ground, what do you do within five minutes of planting and the earth is still nicely freshly packed over it, do you start yanking and pulling and pushing and yanking? No. You just shake it a little bit and say is it going to hold for a little bit and if it does what do you do then? You shake a little bit harder, right? Then you might tamp down the earth a little bit more and you shake a bit harder.

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CHPH 2.0 ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved Each time you shake the tree the roots will grow. Why? You have simulated the tree to want to send those roots out just to solidify. Well then I’m not a gardener so I don’t know if it’s true in nature in this way, but you get the metaphor, right? You are simulating the tree to send deeper roots out to be able to take more pressure. So as my testing progresses, I test increasingly harshly.

Now what happens when I say to you, you know, has this changed and they say yes. What do they have to do to be able to say yes? They have to go through the entire process again to check it don’t they? In this case Renee had to put herself in a position where she is under pressure, she feels what she is feeling instead and instead of wanting a cigarette she feels a flood of relaxation coming through, right? You saw that cycle happening didn’t you?

When I say are you sure there are two things happening, number one she must do the exact same check again, which means she is sending water down the new channel again. She is conditioning the channel herself. Secondly she is taking responsibility for it. I’m no longer suggesting it. She has…at first I made half the suggestion, are you sure? Which is kind of like I’m sure with you and other times going I don’t believe you. I don’t believe you. It can’t be this quick and I’m going to start voicing her potential doubts so that when she fights me, she is already inoculating herself against her own potential doubts. Do you see how that works? So that’s the whole point of saying are you sure? I’m not going to start with are sure, I’m going to start with how are you now? How is it going? Is it getting stronger yet? I’m solidifying things, right? And just double checking but before we move on are you sure – this is good? Yeah. Are you sure? Really? Really? You are not messing with me are you? Again they have to check. I don’t believe you. It can’t be this quick. Well when you were just sitting up here, you were just doing stuff in your mind here. It’s not really real is it?

What happens when the client, when you are pushing the client so far they want to shake you and say shut up already I’m done? Is that a good thing or a bad thing, versus the opposite which I have by the way been in, where you are so busy trying to persuade the client that it worked? Has any hypnotherapist tried that before? How well does it work for you? Not the best place to be in is it. I know I have done it plenty of times and it’s not a happy place to be. I’d rather

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CHPH 2.0 ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved have the client tell me to shut up already, because I am done I want to get out of here, just stop because now they’ve taken complete responsibility for this. Can they now go back and have doubts? It’s extremely unlikely isn’t it?

They’ve committed to a position, the position is one of change. Do you see how that works? Now there is no 100% in anything. There are no guarantees in anything that you do? What you can do is you can stack the deck in your favor and make it more likely, most likely to work and be stable and so on. Does that help? Do you want to stand up and…

Q: This might be really, really simple I might have just missed it but at the top of the diagram with the happy faces and the squiggles going up.

Igor: Squiggles are just a work of art. This is clearly Mind Bending Language spinning people out.

Q: Exactly. Igor: Clearly.

Q: And beyond that setting that aside it says TIP at the top. Igor: Trance of Infinite Possibilities.

Q: Got it thank you.

Igor: Let me ask you this guys, just click off a second and we’ll come to you in a second. Have all of you or at least most of you at some point in this course experienced that sense of like, (blankness) when you are asked the question whether it was during the Mind Bending Language or the none awareness set or anything else, have you all experienced at least one moment of that yes?

All: Yes.

Igor: And was – and have you at least experienced at least one moment of that which was positive in other words you had no idea what's going on. It’s kind of a weird blank voidy sort of thing, but you felt really good about it. Yes?

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much anything is up for grabs yes? That’s the trance of infinite possibilities. You are moving them into a mental state where virtually anything is possible for them and it’s just a question of where do you help them to land. And one of the easiest ways to do that is your tonality and your expression.

How are you doing now? Not good. That’s right you are not doing good yet. Huh? What just happened? I don’t know. You really don’t know. Do you see how virtually any part of your conversation, of your interaction brings it forward, progresses it. You are only looking for three things, good bad or ugly, ugly being neutral. It’s cowboy therapy. It’s really simple you are only looking for three things aren’t you and you only have three maneuvers to make. You bend their mind if it’s bad.

You encourage it and transform them, you bring it back to the problem if it’s good and if it’s somewhere in between, if it’s not good not bad it’s neutral you help them find something good. It’s really simple steps, anything extra well that’s on you. You are over complicating at that point. Do you understand this, the general principal of what we are doing here, yes? Does this help? Does this answer your question?

Q: Yes.

Igor: Go ahead stand up and click it on.

Q: We just observed a successful session of the quit smoking in here, the question is, what is relapse rate of, compared to medical treatment and then another question for addiction gambling and alcoholism and all these?

Igor: Let’s take this one at a time.

1. Number one, what's the relapse rate of this, I have no idea. How could I know it’s the first time I have ever used Mind Bending Language exclusively for a stop smoking session, I did tell you this, did I not? It was a demonstration of Mind Bending Language over anything else. In terms of the stop smoking session that we’ve created there, which may include Mind Bending Language as part of it but has other things around it, it really depends on the therapists.

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CHPH 2.0 ©Street Hypnosis All Rights Reserved I have not tracked my progression cleanly so I can’t give you a clean static. I know it’s very high so be in the 80 I’d like to say 90 percentile rate but I really don’t know. They are other clients which for example Joe over here has been doing that so maybe you can say a word or two about your particular success rate. Just make sure everyone can see you Joe.

Joe: So I do a lot of stop smoking sessions. I do you know maybe five to 10 a week and I do track my success rate with people. I have all sorts of tools to do that. I give them surveys and all sorts of stuff if anyone is interested in how I do that you can talk to me later, but I see about a 95 percent sort of stick rate and I you use most of the techniques that Igor has on his Master Class and a few sort of tricks that I have kind of developed on my own. I see people like I said that 95 percent success rate has continued for years. I have been doing this now for like two almost three years and I do it in one session, I do it in an hour and no one comes back.

The very few people that do come back it takes me about 15 minutes to fix whatever went wrong and its usually something that didn’t figure out or didn’t know to tell me or it was just a new situation that came up in their life and I can deal with it right there in like I said 15-20 minutes and then they never come back either.

I have clients constantly calling me or emailing me and telling me six months later

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